Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/06/06

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Subject: [Leica] Compact Camera Conundrum
From: msadat at gmail.com (mehrdad)
Date: Wed Jun 6 22:27:49 2007
References: <DC4B73A4105FCE4FAE0CEF799BF84B36013F1E9A@case-email> <46643226.5020401@comcast.net> <aed41d690706040935sade9a5crf6f14d76b955b2d7@mail.gmail.com> <466444CF.5000908@gmx.de> <466792A8.2000306@nathanfoto.com>

nathan did u also look @ the sensor size difference between the grd
and dp-1? the dp-1 is APS size and very capable @ shooting high iso if
it is the same as sigma's latest sd-14 camera. people are compering
the results of the sd-14 with the canon 5d.

On 6/6/07, Nathan Wajsman <nathan@nathanfoto.com> wrote:
> I printed out the PDF from the web site and drooled all over it until I
> realized that there is a fly in the ointment: the slow (f4) lens.
> Compared to my Ricoh GRD's f2.4 lens, this means that the Sigma is about
> 1 1/3 stops slower. Or put in another way: if I am in a situation where
> I need to use the Ricoh wide open at ISO 400 (the highest usable ISO on
> the GRD in my opinion), I would need to set the Sigma to ISO 1000 in the
> same situation. So while I am sure that the Sigma's sensor is superior
> to the Ricoh's at the same ISO, that is not the relevant comparison for
> me. The Sigma at ISO 1000 would need to be superior to the Ricoh at ISO
> 400. I think I'll wait for some reviews...
>
> Nathan
>
> Douglas Sharp wrote:
> > The photographic magazines in Germany have it priced at 700 Euros -
> > not cheap for a P&S - but I think I want one anyway :-)
> > Douglas
> >
> > Jeffery Smith wrote:
> >> Some of us are waiting on the Sigma DP1. Sigma has given it its own web
> >> site:
> >>
> >> http://www.sigma-dp1.com/
> >>
> >> but so far it hasn't been released.
> >>
> >> Jeffery
> >>
> >> On 6/4/07, charcot <charcot@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I said I would never get a PS digital without a optical viewfinder -
> >>> well I got the Ricoh GRD and have been happy with it.  I did get the
> >>> optional viewfinder to use when needed.  Indoors or at nite it's not
> >>> needed.  Shooting in the Grand Canyon I really didn't mind the add on
> >>> viewfinder.  It's quick, no shutter lag, macro, flash.  RAW is VERY
> >>> slow
> >>> but 8 MP is very acceptable.
> >>>
> >>> ernie
> >>>
> >>> David Rodgers wrote:
> >>> > I need a new compact digital camera. My Canon G2 is ready for
> >>> > retirement. I'm using my M6 less, because of time constraints and
> >>> film
> >>> > processing/scanning.  My DSLR is just too bulky. Much as I'd like
> >>> to I'm
> >>> > just not ready to buy an M8. I need something I can carry with me
> >>> at all
> >>> > times.
> >>> >
> >>> > The Fuji F31 appeals to me for its low noise at higher ISO. It's also
> >>> > relatively inexpensive. But can I live with 6MP?....or 35mm effective
> >>> > focal length?.... I'd much prefer 28mm! And what about ergonomics?
> >>> The
> >>> > G2 served me well, but I always lamented the fact that even at
> >>> $800 it
> >>> > felt like a disposable.
> >>> >
> >>> > The Ricoh GR has appeal. But I keep reading mixed reviews.
> >>> >
> >>> > My preference would be to own a Lumix, simply for the Leica
> >>> connection.
> >>> > The DMC-FX100 looks exciting. But I'm a little wary of high megapixel
> >>> > P&S cameras. Is 12.2MP asking too much in a compact camera? That's
> >>> > double the Fuji's MP, yet from what I see the sensors are about
> >>> the same
> >>> > size. Plus, I need something now and the FX100 isn't available yet.
> >>> >
> >>> > I would appreciate feedback or info on other compact digitals that
> >>> might
> >>> > appeal to Leica Users.
> >>> >
> >>> > Needs.....
> >>> > Decent low light performance
> >>> > Widest possible effective focal length (min 35mm)
> >>> > Is quiet and unobtrusive
> >>> > Has minimum shutter lag
> >>> > Has manual capability (at least aperture priority)
> >>> > Has decent battery life
> >>> > Is simple and reliable.
> >>> > Can live with jpeg only if it's decent jpeg.
> >>> > Not too big or too small. Anything that's smaller than a Contax
> >>> T2/Canon
> >>> > G2 but bigger than a deck of cards is OK.
> >>> >
> >>> > Don't needs....
> >>> > Image stabilization
> >>> > Digital zoom (or optical zoom for that matter if lens is between 28mm
> >>> > and 35mm)
> >>> > Macro capability
> >>> >
> >>> > Wishes...
> >>> > Usable optical viewfinder
> >>> > Inexpensive (I'm still saving for an M8).
> >>> >
> >>> > TIA
> >>> > DaveR
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
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