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Subject: [Leica] Summarit press release
From: len-1 at comcast.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Wed Aug 8 13:06:50 2007
References: <C2DF86A4.6368E%mark@rabinergroup.com> <1999F1C7-C36E-4584-BCC4-7DD976F9A2EB@comcast.net> <000a01c7d9f5$c2efd160$6401a8c0@xyw>

Thanks,

I found it. The graphs are there and the numbers are the same.

Len


On Aug 8, 2007, at 3:53 PM, A. Lal wrote:

> Around 1999-2000 the site fell into disrepair. The old site and  
> graphs can be accessed from this address:
>
> old.photodo.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Taupier"  
> <len-1@comcast.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, 08 August, 2007 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Summarit press release
>
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> I recorded this data about three years ago. I believe it was from  
>> Photodo. They have since removed this data. New management I think.
>>
>> Lens f2.8 f4.0 f8.0 Rating
>>
>> Canon EF 50/1.8 77 81 85 4.2
>>
>> Contax Planar 50/1.7 78 86 88 4.6
>>
>> Leica Summicron 50/2.0 81 85 87 4.6
>>
>> Nikon AF 50/1.8 78 83 86 4.4
>>
>> These are resolution numbers. In this focal length nearly all  
>> lenses  made are old designs and very similar. The differences are  
>> glass  types and manufacturing tolerances.
>>
>> Last week I ran resolutions tests on seven Leica 50mm lenses.  
>> They  were the 3.5 Elmar, Summarit, Summitar, Summicron  
>> Collapsible,  Summicron Rigid #1, current Summicron and Noctilux.  
>> The lens with the  highest resolution was the Summicron Rigid #1  
>> made in 1958. However  it wasn't the sharpest. Most of the lenses  
>> had very similar  resolution numbers. The difference was contrast.  
>> The current  Summicron was by far the sharpest of all. The  
>> contrast was easily the  best. I would have included my 50mm  
>> Summilux Asph but it's at Leica,  NJ being coded. It's better then  
>> the Summicron. At some point after  1958 Leica started optimizing  
>> their lenses for contrast, not resolution.
>>
>> I have 3 of the 4 lenses from the Photodo test. I see the Leica  
>> as  the best. And the proof is in the photos, not the test charts.
>>
>> I know. I have a lot of time on my hands. But I'm an engineer and   
>> this is what I do when I'm not taking photos. It's relaxing.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Aug 8, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>
>>>> Frank,
>>>>
>>>> I have the 50 Summicron, and it certainly knocks my socks off.   
>>>> No complaints
>>>> of its performance in my book.
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The results from my Summicron m always looks great.
>>>
>>> But the specs put others in front of it.
>>>
>>> The design is 28 years old.
>>> That's a long time in this day and age of computer this and  
>>> special coatings
>>> that. Newer glasses perhaps.
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Harlem, NY
>>>
>>> rabinergroup.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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