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Subject: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)
Date: Tue Nov 20 06:46:54 2007

Joseph,

No, currently Iowan.  ;-)

No, some years ago, we met a couple working for an organization called 
AYUSA, and got started hosting students.  It has been a very rewarding 
experience over the years.  Unfortunately this year we do not have a student 
as the local high schools has limited the number of exchange students they 
would except.

Gene

-------------- Original message from "Joseph" <joelct@singnet.com.sg>: 
-------------- 


> Gene 
> 
> By mentioning "exchange students" are you by any chance a Rotarian? 
> 
> Joseph Low / PP 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: lug-bounces+joelct=singnet.com.sg@leica-users.org 
> [mailto:lug-bounces+joelct=singnet.com.sg@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> grduprey@mchsi.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:12 PM 
> To: Leica Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits 
> 
> Having had quite a few exchange students over the years I have come to the 
> realisation that exact translations between languages is not possible. 
> Therefore we get these imprecise translations, just a fact of life with 
> different languages. 
> 
> gene 
> 
> -------------- Original message from Leonard Taupier : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > I've been to Oz a couple times and even that may be suspect. Not to 
> > say I'm perfect of course. ;-) 
> > 
> > Len 
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 19, 2007, at 7:47 PM, G Hopkinson wrote: 
> > 
> > > Jeffery, it may be that the language suffers a little in that 
> > > English would not be Erwin's primary language, of course. We're lucky 
> > > to have the reviews available in English, I think. I wish I had a 
> > > good grasp on languages other than my native tongue. 
> > > Cheers 
> > > Geoff 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin Puts tests the summarits 
> > > 
> > > Sometimes I wish he was more descriptive with his reviews. When he 
> > > tells me 
> > > that a lens I am planning to buy "invites sympathy" at f/3.5, it 
> > > seems like 
> > > a positive spin on a negative attribute. 
> > > 
> > > On Nov 19, 2007 4:54 PM, Michiel Fokkema 
> > > wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> Hi Steve, 
> > >> 
> > >> Nothing personal but I have to defend Erwin here because he is not on 
> > >> this list anymore 
> > >> 
> > >> Erwin has assured me that he is not paid by Leica. He does btw has a 
> > >> normal day job as a business consultant 
> > >> I have met him several times, as have others here on the list. I'm 
> > >> sure 
> > >> he is integer and he is a very nice person too. 
> > >> He has a wealth of (inside) knowledge and also does criticize 
> > >> leica as 
> > >> he thinks it is appropriate. 
> > >> He has not been treated very well here on the list by some people, 
> > >> which 
> > >> in my opinion is very shameful. 
> > >> You might not agree with him, or you may not like the way he 
> > >> writes but 
> > >> in my opinion he is fully reliable in his testing and his book on 
> > >> Leica lenses is an all time classic which I consult very often. 
> > >> 
> > >> Best regards, 
> > >> 
> > >> Michiel Fokkema 
> > >> 
> > >> Steve Barbour wrote: 
> > >>> as all lenses are a compromise, these are a bigger compromise 
> > >>> than most 
> > >>> for Leica... 
> > >>> 
> > >>> We have to wonder what Erwin gets from Leica for writing these lens 
> > >>> tests and reviews... 
> > >>> 
> > >>> hence, I'm not too sure he can be an objective and independent 
> > >>> testing 
> > >>> service... 
> > >>> 
> > >>> but it's fun to read the stuff, 
> > >>> 
> > >>> fwiw... 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Steve 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 3:25 PM, slobodan dimitrov wrote: 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> Or maybe Leica just threw in the towel, on the basis that their 
> > >>>> previous optics are beyond the capabilities of their current client 
> > >> base. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Slobodan D. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Birchenhall wrote: 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Michiel 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Thanks for the link. Sounds like Leica have hit a happy balance 
> > >>>> with 
> > >>>> these new lenses. 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Chris B 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> On 18/11/2007, Michiel Fokkema wrote: 
> > >>>>> http://www.imx.nl/photo/lenstest/summarit_lenses_part_one_no.html 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> cheers, 
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Michiel Fokkema 
> > >>>>> 
> > > -- 
> > > Jeffery L. Smith 
> > > New Orleans, LA 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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