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Subject: [Leica] Capa or here we go again
From: s.dimitrov at charter.net (slobodan dimitrov)
Date: Tue Jan 29 18:01:15 2008
References: <C3C36FE2.275D7%bd@bdcolenphoto.com> <DA6B0BED-580A-4D34-B8CF-754D98C431E5@bex.net>

It's quite easy to solve this dilemma.
First get on the site below and then look up place and date.
Me, I'm more interested in what really took place at Waterloo, when  
Great Britain arrested European freedom for another half century.  
Oops, I promised myself I wouldn't go there....

http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/11602#more-11602

s.d.


On Jan 29, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Howard Ritter wrote:

B.D.--

I have no doubt about the existence and apparent power of coincidence  
(although Adams was quoted as saying that he tensed his finger on the  
shutter release and let the startle reaction to the sound of the  
pistol shot complete the action at the decisive moment). In fact, it  
was to sheer coincidence that I had attributed the phenomenal dying  
soldier photo, which I had always taken at face value. But to have  
the very SAME coincidence happen again moments later, to have been  
just feet away from two different soldiers when they were hit and to  
have snapped the shutter at the same point in the soldier's falls,  
with both soldiers positioned about the same way in their body  
orientation vis-a-vis the photographer, etc? A coincidence of  
coincidences? I stand by my impression: it looks like attempts were  
being made to stage a photo.

We may not need Scully and Mulder. The truth is out there...hopefully  
in the valises.

--howard


On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:41 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Good Lord, Howard - What is so improbable that someone might shoot two
> people dying on approximately the same spot if the photographer was  
> crouched
> nearby, camera pointed toward the spot?
>
> I think what puzzles me the most about all this is not whether or  
> not it is
> real, but the seeming compulsion on the part of some to insist that  
> it is
> not.
>
> How is it that Eddie Adams managed to push his shutter release at the
> precise instant the Gen. Lon's bullet entered the skull of the VC  
> captive?
> Was that execution staged for Adams? Was he complicit in it?
>
> How did Bob Jackson happen to be in precisely the right position to  
> get that
> astounding photo of Jack Ruby shooting Oswald? Was he tipped ahead  
> that the
> shooting would take place?
>
> I don't think anyone asks those questions, yet, if one believes that
> uncritical "acceptance of this most improbable coincidence is  
> inadequate,
>> irresponsible journalism" is the only way to view the possibility  
>> that Capa
> shot - sorry - two people on the same spot, how can one deal with  
> those other
> two astounding coincidences?


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