[Leica] Not Buying M8

[grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com)]

And the chemicals from processing and producing film do not?

Gene

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Robert Meier" <robertmeier@usjet.net>
>
> Digital uses electricity at every step of the way:   it therefore requires 
> the generation of electricity, and that process is neither clean nor cheap 
> and defintiely contaminates the environment.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Luis Ripoll" <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 4:18 PM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Not Buying M8
> 
> 
> > Don, your arguments are very logical. The only point to comment as on a
> > science fiction film, If I was the big boss of a big Company or if I can
> > influence the international markets I would promote the marketing idea 
> > about
> > digital is clean, cheap, and not contaminant
> >
> > Saludos cordiales
> > Luis
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre 
> > de
> > Don Dory
> > Enviado el: lunes, 10 de marzo de 2008 16:51
> > Para: Leica Users Group
> > Asunto: Re: [Leica] Not Buying M8
> >
> > Frank,Individual choice is what drove my family here almost 400 years 
> > ago.
> > No problem.  But you would not need a new computer or lenses but may 
> > need 
> > a
> > new printer. Or not,  many retailers now have an Epson 4800-7800 on 
> > premises
> > so prints can be done elsewhere.
> >
> > Film is just going to get more expensive and processing more cult like
> > unless you do your own.  Chemicals will be harder to find as the safety
> > Nazi's continue to insist that Dektol is dangerous and requires special
> > handling.  On the bonus side there are some great film cameras out there 
> > for
> > next to nothing; I picked up a very clean Canon 7 with 35 F2, 50 1.4, 
> > 100 
> > F2
> > and 135 3.5 all late black lenses for $300.  At those prices I will still
> > use some film.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> you bring up a good point...... if it is a devalued US $.....
> >>
> >> The M8 would cost $3500 if it were $1 = 1 EURO.  ( currently around
> >> $1.5 =
> >> 1
> >> EURO )
> >>
> >> Then a lot of this discussion of film to digital nonsense would go away.
> >>
> >> All of us Americans should buy nothing, and all you Rest Or Worlders
> >> should buy only USA Made goods.
> >> Then the dollar would rise and the Americans could afford a $3500
> >> Digital M.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I find the rest of the argument unconvincing.  I use film
> >> because #1, I am not a pro.  I do not have to use digital.  Pros have
> >> to use digital.
> >> #2  I have plenty of film cameras that I won, they work, and they do
> >> what I want them to do.  I do not have to buy something else.
> >> #3 While my personal finances may allow me to go buy a $5K camera Plus
> >> SW and Printer and scanner for my existing negatives/transparencies
> >> for maybe another $2-5K, I choose to spend my $$$ other places, or not 
> >> at
> > all.
> >> #4 I can still get suitable film for what I like to do, and get it
> >> processed, locally ( I live in Los Angeles area so processing is no
> >> problem).  While some brands have gone away, I have found suitable
> >> replacements.
> >> #5 My cameras are reliable.  They are mechanical, made for 50 year
> >> life( or more.... M6TTL is a pretty tough camera) and can be repaired
> >> anywhere in the world in a few days by a lot of people.
> >> #6 I have the patience to not need to Chimp or otherwise have my film
> >> processed in 2 seconds ( I was never a fan of Polaroid either).  I can
> >> wait.
> >> #7 I just plain prefer to use film.  It suits me, my lifestyle, and my
> >> hobby.
> >>
> >> Anything wrong with that?  For Me?
> >>
> >> Frank Filippone
> >> red735i@earthlink.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don
> > don.dory@gmail.com
> >
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