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Subject: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200...
From: kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue Jul 22 09:17:30 2008
References: <C4AACDF3.1C602%mark@rabinergroup.com> <BF3D7BE5-9448-4D4B-BE5F-E5DDAB662D15@mac.com>

On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:58 PM, Lottermoser George wrote:

> Whatever gets you what you want - have at it.
>
> All this tech talk don't mean s**t - though fun.
>
> For most of us the tech stuff is interesting. We're able to check  
> our assumptions. Learn about new or old lenses, films, developers,  
> chips, prices, tripods, monopods, hats, single malts, fountain pens,  
> mechanical pencils, vintage cars, focusing screens, water filters,  
> lens filters, IR, UV, haze, fog, fogg, etc. ad infinitum.
>
> Bottom line - show me your photographs - not your cameras.

right...

please, those who are massaging this topic...show us some illustrative  
photos to document or prove your points...

Steve

> Fond regards,
> George
>
> george@imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> Well I can point my camera in a dark alley with a cheap slow zoom  
>> and pull
>> out a perfect image. And image you can see by standing there in  
>> person at
>> the alley. And way better than with a Noctilux.
>> At 1600. You just have to keep the print small.
>> I have some monster glass.
>> A 28 1.4
>> But I hate having to carry that around.
>>
>> Digital inspires one to shoot in extreme darkness and in all  
>> conditions at
>> all ISO's. I normally have my auto ISO set at 100-800. Will shoot  
>> at 100 on
>> the sunny side of the street or other surprising situations.. Set  
>> at A.
>> aperture priority. stopped down a stop and a half usually or more.
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@rabinergroup.com
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3@mac.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:04:25 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200...
>>>
>>> The strange thing, for me, about this dialogue:
>>> Yes. The 5D (and even the 20D) performs remarkably well at 1600 (and
>>> apparently the D3 - D300 even better and higher). Yet, I prefer
>>> working the Leica ccd at lower iso's with faster primes and even
>>> adding light if necessary to achieve my aesthetic goals.
>>>
>>> So after working all these critters in the field it comes down to,
>>> "what do you want to see on the print and how will you achieve it?"
>>> Just like the old days - pick your film - pick your developer - pick
>>> your gear and try say something with it.
>>>
>>> Fond regards,
>>> George
>>>
>>> george@imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>
>>>> At what high ISO speed would be the point that the Canon would take
>>>> over I'm
>>>> wondering?  As everyone is being uniformly vague.
>>>> Inquiring photogs want to know!
>>>>
>>>> I'd guess 1600 based on nothing but dumb intuition.
>>>>
>>>> 1600 is not so great I've found on a nikon d200.
>>>> And imagine its very doable with a D300.
>>>> While with the full frames many stops faster than that.
>>>
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] How to get an M8 for $3200...)
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