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Subject: [Leica] Fakes and Drugs
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Thu Aug 14 13:13:30 2008
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MY athletes are ALL athletes, Didier.

Gary Hall - boy - THERE'S a source!

Adam
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Didier Ludwig <leica@screengang.com> wrote:
> A quite emotional post, Adam.
>
> No one has evidences against Phelps, otherwise he would have been chased 
> through Bejing like a rabid dog, for shure ;-)
>
> After all the doping scandals of the past years, it's quite understandable 
> that such top performances like Phelp's leave a smell of doubts. This 
> perception has nothing to with "cynical unwashed masses", but more with 
> common sense. Based, for instance, on news stories about US top swimmer 
> Jessica Hardy, who had to withdrew from the games, just a few days before 
> the beginning, after failing a drug test; or about US top swimmer athlete 
> Gary Hall, who  believes that the flood of new world records is not only 
> dued to honest methods. He is more insider than you, but the answers given 
> by other athletes and functionaries were the same like yours: "Bring 
> evidence or shut up".
>
> Your attitude is quite typical for sport association functionaries. They 
> also said the same things about Carl Lewis, Marion Jones, Justin Gatlin, 
> Ben Johnson and many others, before these were caught. Believing in the 
> honesty of the olympic sports spirit is either starry-eyed or against 
> one's better knowledge, these days.
>
> Nevertheless, I hope you enjoy the races of "your" athletes :-)
> Cheers,
>
> Didier
>
>
>
>
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>
>>Horse crap, Steve.
>>
>>The issues about testing are most severe with regard to false
>>positives -- kicking out athletes who never used drugs.
>>
>>SOMEONE has to speak in favor of the athletes and I'm making it me.
>>They train damn hard and I'm not letting the cynical unwashed masses
>>corrupt their effort.
>>
>>If you have good evidence that Phelps or any other swimmer is using
>>performance enhancing drugs then step forward and demonstrate it.
>>
>>My essay and response was the broad painting of all athetes and all
>>programs as dopers when sport is doing a great deal both during the
>>Olympics and especially outside it, to make sure the playing field is
>>level.
>>
>>Or, I suppose, we can just say inject your heart out and chance take
>>the consequences. That'll be the day I never follow another sporting
>>event again.
>>
>>Yours in disgust,
>>
>>Adam
>
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In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Fakes)
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Message from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Fakes)
Message from abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] Fakes)
Message from kididdoc at cox.net (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Fakes and Drugs)
Message from abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] Fakes and Drugs)
Message from leica at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Fakes and Drugs)