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Subject: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lenses
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Sep 13 15:07:06 2008
References: <C4F0E0F4.31F51%mark@rabinergroup.com><DBDF09F5-147C-4D3E-B0EC-EEE501AB0BF6@frozenlight.eu><FC83806256804857807023E4616FB6EC@dadquad> <930DF065-9B1E-4487-966A-F5202D25FE0F@verizon.net>

Len, once the new super-nocti lens has been in circulation (well a couple of
lenses get sold) for a very short while, wait for the comparisons and angst.
That is my prediction. I bet it will be a superb lens too, but I'd also
predict it won't please fans of the Nocti classic ;-)
As to two new 24s, the current Elmarit-M is widely recognised as one of
Leica's best lenses. People will be spoilt for choice with two more options
there.  Then there's a fast 21.
That will make 2x 21's, 3x 24's, 2x 28's, 3x 35's, 4x 50's, 3x 90's and a
partridge in a pear tree. Almost all state of the art. I wouldn't be
surprised if a new design replaces the current Summilux-M 35 at some point.
Can't wait to hear if we get a new 16 or 18 too (apparently not this time?).
Anyone with M in their soul should be pretty thrilled, I think. 

For me as a Leica enthusiast I think that is very good news for Leica to see
them raising the bar with bleeding edge lens designs. More power to them.
End of fan boy post.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lens Pictures....

I can't imagine any Leica user that wouldn't be pleased when new  
lenses are an improvement over the older models. The current Noctilux  
is selling for around $6K if you can find one. I bought mine new the  
5th of January, 2006 for the 2005 list price of $3400. It cost me an  
additional $90 for Don Goldberg to fix the back focus issue. The  
photos from this lens and the M8 are sparkling and much better then  
before the adjustment. It is now my favorite lens and I'm thinking of  
selling the 50 Summilux Asph which does have a slight back focus  
issue. I have the Summicron if I need a smaller lens. Even if the new  
Noctilux could cook my breakfast and do the laundry, for $6k, $8k or  
$11K, it can stay in a museum or on a collectors shelf for all I care.

Regards,
Len


On Sep 13, 2008, at 3:50 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

>  No doubt that will mean focus shift is addressed too.
> You have to imagine that the results from them won't please fans of  
> the old
> Nocti (and of course they won't be exactly inexpensive)!
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lens Pictures....
>
> Mark, yes, that is exactly what the Polish text says, full quality
> wide open, stopping down only impacts DOF. Also, regarding the
> Summiluxes, they claim to have corrected vignetting and distortion to
> the point of being invisible.
>
> The mag in question is quite a serious one, so I have no doubt  that
> both the info and the pictures are real.
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> Where there's a slow one too
>> LEICA ELMAR-M 24 mm f/3.8 ASPH.
>> Which is what I wanted in my holiday stocking.
>> Compact
>> They seem to be saying that wide open at 3.8 you are already getting
>> your
>> sharpest specs and then stopping down you're just getting more depth
>> of
>> field you'd not do that for higher rez.
>> I had ask for f 4's.
>> But I'd say a 3.8 is close enough.
>> If this is for real.
>>
>> If its not its got me fooled.
>>
>>
>> Leica quality with no compromises.
>>
>> ME I don't consider a slow lens it be a compromise in anything.
>> Its just a 3.8 lens.
>> Its what you'd pick when you don't need a fast lens and you do need
>> top
>> quality and a lightweight compact optic.
>>
>> This is exactly the combination I normally need.
>> And I think there's a market for it too.
>> As in lots of other people wanted it too.
>>
>> The proof is in the pudding and time will tell.
>> I think this kind of stuff is smart Leica stuff.
>>
>> In the catalog there was always Both a fast and slow option.
>> If they're bringing that back I think we'll see that's good for
>> everybody.
>> And good for the Leica company.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> mark@rabinergroup.com
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Frank Travel <red735i@earthlink.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:46:04 -0700
>>> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] Lux 21 and 24 Lens Pictures....
>>>
>>> Apparently on the Leica Poland page....
>>>
> <http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffotopolis.pl% 
> 2Findex.p
>>> hp%3Fn%3D7823&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=pl&tl=en>
>>>
>>> With translation into English, almost.
>>>
>>> If you want to read the original Polish version....
>>> http://fotopolis.pl/index.php?n=7823
>>>
>>> These are big Diameter lenses......   about the same overall size
>>> as a 75
>>> Lux....
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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