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Subject: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Sun Nov 2 04:03:21 2008

I completely agree! I use external viewfinders a lot (but on my M8)
Frank


--- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:

> From: Lluis Ripoll <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the M3
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 6:01 PM
> Frank,
> 
> If you've never tried the external vf SGVOO (for 90) I
> suggest to try  
> it, it is reallya pleasurecompose with it. Another thing I
> like on the  
> M3 and M's is that the VF is clean, no distracting
> LEDS, and with the  
> external VF still more "clean".
> 
> Saludos cordiales
> Lluis
> 
> 
> El 01/11/2008, a las 18:39, FRANK DERNIE escribi?:
> 
> > Hi Lluis,
> > I forgot to mention that I like the M3 finder best
> too, and I agree,  
> > I have no problem using external finers for WA lenses!
> > OTOH I only use the M8 now and the framelines are
> miles out at  
> > normal distances, my only real complaint.
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lluis Ripoll
> <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts on the
> M3
> >> To: "Leica Users Group"
> <lug@leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 3:35 PM
> >> Hi Frank, and also to Hoppy
> >>
> >> I'm absolutely agree, the onky reason is
> economy and
> >> maybe I should
> >> add marketing. When Leitz has isssued the very
> nice camera
> >> M6J, IMO
> >> they has losst a great opportunity, they has do it
> it with
> >> M6 VF
> >> instead to re-buid an actual M3 vf, another
> advantage of
> >> this one is
> >> that it never flare, the M6 vf it flares, the VF
> of the MP
> >> is quasi
> >> perfect, my MP is 0,85x, and I've paid 400
> Euros to
> >> Solms to upgrade
> >> the vf of my M6TTL to the same of the MP.
> >>
> >> I'm using M3 after 1989 and I continue
> thinking that it
> >> is the best vf
> >> Leica has created, for 21-24-28-35 no problem,
> there are
> >> excellent
> >> extrrnal viewfinders, on my experience I compose
> better the
> >> image with
> >> the SBLOO (for 35mm) and SLOOZ (for 28mm), even
> with the
> >> SGVOO (90
> >> mm), than with the M's brighlines viewfinders.
> >>
> >> I don't know with the M8 framelines, they look
> very
> >> small for a 50,
> >> neither I don't knowif it flare or it is
> improved as on
> >> the MP.
> >>
> >> Saludos cordiales
> >> Lluis
> >>
> >>
> >> El 01/11/2008, a las 15:47, FRANK DERNIE
> escribi?:
> >>
> >>> Hi Lluis,
> >>> I am fairly sure the reason the M3 rangefinder
> is no
> >> longer made is
> >>> that it was quite notably more expensive to
> make than
> >> the M2 type.
> >>> The M2 was made as an "economy"
> model with a
> >> wider angle of view but
> >>> a less precise but less expensive rangefinder.
> Since
> >> many
> >>> photographers preferred a 35mm lens it became
> possible
> >> to
> >>> standardise on the M2 style without owner
> complaint.
> >>> Today , if you need a new viewfinder in your
> M3 they
> >> have to fit a
> >>> higher magnification M2 style viewfinder since
> the M3
> >> type ran out
> >>> years ago.
> >>> There are pictures and drawings of the
> differences in
> >> books I own,
> >>> tha M3 really is a more expensive item under
> the skin
> >> than
> >>> subsequent M Leicas.
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Lluis Ripoll
> >> <luisripoll@telefonica.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: Lluis Ripoll
> >> <luisripoll@telefonica.net>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] ... and Some Thoughts
> on the
> >> M3
> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group"
> >> <lug@leica-users.org>
> >>>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 10:57 AM
> >>>> Frank,
> >>>>
> >>>> I rarey use my 1,25x, IMO they
> "eat"
> >> some
> >>>> brilliance.
> >>>>
> >>>> About the M3 VF, I've never understod
> why
> >> Leica did not
> >>>> remake it on a
> >>>> modern version
> >>>>
> >>>> Saludos cordiales
> >>>> Lluis
> >>>>
> >>>> El 31/10/2008, a las 7:17, Frank Filippone
> >> escribi?:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I agree with the improvement using the
> 1.25 (
> >> I do not
> >>>> have a 1.4, but
> >>>>> believe it will work as well....)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, the 1.4 costs as much as
> almost any
> >> other
> >>>> manufacturer's
> >>>>> SLR 50mm
> >>>>> lens.... !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess glass is glass at Leica...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Frank Filippone
> >>>>> red735i@earthlink.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The magnifiers are VERY helpful with
> critical
> >> DoF on
> >>>> the 50 and up
> >>>>> wide open
> >>>>> as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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