Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/12/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]County Wicklow? Lovely place. Been there, a blindingly fun wedding reception circa 1988. Back in the day when the only way to get Three Swallows (Power's Irish Whiskey) involved someone crossing the pond to bring a bottle back. :) Charlie On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Sonny Carter wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Marc James Small <marcsmall@comcast.net > >wrote: > >> >> >> Again, I can find no reference anywhere that Collins had any >> special regard >> for County Wicklow. I have asked for some documentary evidence to >> the >> contrary but, beyond pub tales, so far none has come forward. I am >> very >> much open to being shown to be wrong, but, from the sources I have >> at hand, >> I cannot even find a single instance when Collins did more than >> pass through >> the County. Saying something is so doesn't make it so: I have >> gone through >> my sources and cannot find any support for the original assertion. >> If >> anyone on the LUG has opposite and reliable information, I would >> appreciate >> their presenting it, probably best by private e-mail. > > > Also saying something isn't so doesn't make it not so. Most > history is > derived from asking people "what happened?" In my admittedly short > visit > to Wicklow County, I only had one conversation regarding Collins, > and in > that conversation I was told he had recruited heavily in the > Woodbridge and > Avoca areas. I also was told that another pub we visited was the > setting > for the recent movie. > > We know part of that is noted by Tim Pat Coogan that they recruited in > Woodbridge. > > I also read in the advertisement for a vacation rental, a possible > myth, > possible truth: > > "Wicklow House, on several hundred acres of woodlands and pastures in > Annamoe, Co. Wicklow, has a cherished and memorable history. It was > the > former home of Robert Barton who was the last signatory to the 1921 > Treaty > and Erskine R. Childers, who was arrested at this house and executed > in > November 1922 for possession of a revolver given to him by that great > Irishman Michael Collins as a keepsake." > > As I stated in my first reply, the issue is possibly fiction, > however, I > found the quote in a film review of "A Journey Through West Wicklow." > > On his last night on earth Michael Collins was asked by his sister, > "You > have been all over Ireland, Mick, which of them do you like the > best?" The > Answer? "The people of County Wicklow". That is why, in 1965, a 110- > ton > granite boulder was transported from West Wicklow to Sam's Cross, > Collins's > birthplace. It stands, rugged sturdy and unyielding, like Collins > himself as > a lasting memory to the "Big Fellow." > > http://www.tuppenceworth.ie/Travel/westwicklow.html > > That's it. You asked for references, and here they are. Not at all > academic, but interesting to me, and even more interesting I find > Douglas' > family connection. So I have heard the stories from two sources, > both of > Wicklow. > > And all this because Marc jumped on a fragment that I posted about > violence > in New Orleans. > > > -- > Regards, > > Sonny > http://www.sonc.com > http://sonc.stumbleupon.com/ > Natchitoches, Louisiana > USA > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > Charlie Meyer West Virginia Coordinator Basset Rescue of Old Dominion, Inc. (BROOD) Droolassic Park Keyser, WV Basset Hound Rescue: Work With Women. Pick Up Dogs.