Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/12/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Ruediger, Thank you for the kind wishes and your reply.Rest assured i don't know any photographic rules i nust noticed the alignment of the clockdial and the ceiling and concluded that it was intentional but poorly executed :) Seems i was wrong. and then it's a lucky shot indeed. a smaal christmas miracle perhaps. Warm regards form a wet slushy amsterdam s On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ruediger Merz <styx op me.com> wrote: > Simon, > > i did not try to create a compositional perfect photo. This was just > emotional. I looked through the finder and released the shutter at the > point > where I felt it was right. This is difficult to put in words. If I would > have worked the photo I would have taken a tripod and would have applied to > the photographic rules. This photo does not apply to the any rules. > > Season greetings to you as well. > > Best, > Rudy > --- > Website: http://www.avianart.com > PGP Public Key : http://www.avianart.com/pub/GPGP-PublicKey.asc > > > On Dec 25, 2009, at 6:55 AM, simon jessurun wrote: > > > Hi, for me the pic would work if it had beenexecuted with more attention > to > > detail. > > Then the picture would have been aligned with the right side of the frame > > and for me more importantly the second hand of the clock with the top > left > > line of the ceiling. > > Did you intentionally disalign them like the table setting in a japanese > > restaurant? > > seasons greetings > > simon > > > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Ruediger Merz <styx op me.com> wrote: > > > >> Ted, > >> > >> I do not intent to stop. If we would have had this talk face to face > your > >> answer would have been different. Because than you would have seen my > >> gesture and mimics, which is normal in a human communication. This is, > IMO, > >> one of the main disadvantages in written communication. The other one is > >> that english is not my mother language. That is another area where I > have to > >> improve. Anyway. Until october last year I was mainly into nature > >> photography, especially bird photography. Which you can see here : > >> > >> > http://www.avianart.com/index.php?id=11&datafile=birds.dat&sortkey=desc-a > >> > >> I always had an M6, but only for travel photography. Last year we had to > go > >> to Germany for business. Here the weather is in comparison to Flagler > Beach, > >> Fl (where I lived before) and Bay City,Tx (where I live now) bad. So I > sold > >> my Nikkor 500mm and bought an M8 for Germany. In the beginning I mostly > >> photographed boring stuff like landscape, buildings and stuff like that. > I > >> call it 'Impressions of Germany', which you can see here : > >> > >> http://www.avianart.com/index.php?id=112&datafile=birds.dat > >> > >> Then I started in a rather new area of photography. And of course I try > to > >> find my own style. And the insight of the LUG members help me very much > with > >> that. The LUG seam honest and mostly straight forward, which I like. > This is > >> different than any forum I know. More like a family.;) > >> > >> I find your idea very interesting and I will try it. > >> > >> Thank you very much. > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> Rudy > >> --- > >> Website: http://www.avianart.com > >> PGP Public Key : http://www.avianart.com/pub/GPGP-PublicKey.asc > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Dec 24, 2009, at 4:41 PM, tedgrant op shaw.ca wrote: > >> > >>> Rudy, > >>> What I might suggest before you post this type of art in single pieces. > >> Do a series along the same style/theme, as in the tea cup that I didn't > >> comment on. Then post them as a kind of exhibition of the work in a > >> collection. In that we may see a very interesting collection by someone > who > >> observes the world with a different set of eyes than we who > predominantly > >> photograph people in real life moments. > >>> > >>> There isn't anything wrong with what you are shooting, it's just caught > >> many by surprise due to it's style. But interesting! > >>> > >>> The tea cup photo was interesting, but I felt it needed something more > >> or less? Either the back ground was too busy, and due to the out of > focus > >> aspect it became far more distracting. Or the cup needed a little tea in > the > >> bottom or some spilled on the table or some indication the human in the > back > >> ground had drank it all? Or? It just didn't cut it. > >>> > >>> Both of your photographs have made me look hard to try & see something > >> other than my rather trite description of the clock and frame.. "a > school > >> composition art assignment." But in reality it is having art school > >> assignments just like this that teach us the balances of good > composition. > >> Don't stop doing what you are doing / trying if it's fun and interesting > for > >> you. > >>> > >>> We all may learn some compositional aspects from your efforts. And as I > >> say, a series posted in a block of images may well have greater impact > than > >> one photo at a time. > >>> cheers, > >>> ted > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruediger Merz" <styx op me.com> > >>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug op leica-users.org> > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 2:11 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Y > >>> > >>> > >>>> Ted, your insight is greatly appreciated. So, I don't take it > >> personally. As long as the critiques are constructive. And yours are. > >>>> > >>>> When I photograph I do it from an emotional state. I look around and > >> think there could be something interesting. Than I observe it, look > through > >> the finder and release the shutter. That's it. No message. I don't try > to > >> send messages, for that I use email or other means. > >>>> > >>>> And I agree with you that the picture is pseudo art. A bad copy of > >> whatever image. Must have been in my subconscious. Funny is that you > first > >> had to tell me. I did not see it for myself. I guess that is why I post > >> images to the LUG. That someone pushes my nose into it. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks Ted, I appreciate it. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Happy Holidays, > >>>> > >>>> Rudy > >>>> --- > >>>> Website: http://www.avianart.com > >>>> PGP Public Key : http://www.avianart.com/pub/GPGP-PublicKey.asc > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Dec 24, 2009, at 2:12 AM, tedgrant op shaw.ca wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Rudy offered: > >>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: Y > >>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/avianart/4209104625/ > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Rudy, > >>>>> Remember you asked for critique and comment! :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> It appears as nothing more than a composition assignment for a high > >> school art class. Sorry mate but that's life. > >>>>> > >>>>> Quite frankly I'm sure you can accomplish far better. Thank you. > >>>>> Please don't take it personally it's the piece of pseudo art I'm > >> speaking of. > >>>>> > >>>>> If I should be so impertinent may I ask, would you please explain to > >> the crew what your motivation was to make this exposure? And what are > you > >> trying to illustrate? Looking for your response! > >>>>> Thank you. > >>>>> cheers, > >>>>> ted > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leica Users Group. > >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>> Version: 8.5.430 / Virus Database: 270.14.118/2584 - Release Date: > >> 12/23/09 19:02:00 > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >