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Subject: [Leica] Use of M8
From: len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:56:46 -0500
References: <CEC89E14-8CB0-419C-A802-0EE4BAECA1B4@frozenlight.eu> <36172e5a1001162312s77e3eda8i89daa66726bfdec2@mail.gmail.com> <F0AE2087-7646-4AAF-88DB-FEB71D6B7808@frozenlight.eu> <36172e5a1001171521o4648e7aes64f0a4678284879a@mail.gmail.com> <58646C84-A63B-4B9F-B5F2-C974C9E9132E@frozenlight.eu>

Hi Nathan,

The f stop estimate was always built into the M8 but was never added  
to the firmware. If you look at the front of the M8 at the red dot,  
to the left and at the 10 o'clock position is a little sensor used  
for this purpose. I think that's correct. It's been a couple years  
since I read about it. If you had certain software you could get the  
data from the exif data string. I guess Leica never put it in the  
viewed data as it was never very accurate. I think Ted is correct  
about it's usefulness but I'm an engineer and find useless  
information interesting at times.

Len

On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
>
> Yes, the Passport is nice. It and the weak pound were the main  
> reason I bought the M8 in the UK.
>
> As for future use--I bought the M8 to take pictures, not to baby,  
> so I will not be doing anything different, except that I will  
> continue to use the little Panasonic LX3 as the cycling camera.
>
> I did notice one very peculiar thing when looking at M8 pictures  
> last night. At first, I was annoyed that Leica had reset the  
> numbering. But OK, I figured that was an inevitable by-product of  
> the repair.  But then I noticed that the exif data includes  
> aperture information, even for uncoded lenses! And I am not talking  
> about the maximum aperture; with both coded and uncoded lenses, the  
> M8 now tries to estimate the actual aperture used. It is not always  
> correct (some shots I took at f1.2 are variously identified as  
> having been taken at f1.4, f1.7 and even f2) but it is mostly in  
> the correct  ballpark.
>
> The version of the firmware is the same as before, so it must be  
> some special Solms black magic :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
>
>
> On Jan 18, 2010, at 12:21 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> An excellent outcome for you Nathan! Congratulations. I guess that  
>> you are
>> very pleased to have bought your M8 from the UK with that generous  
>> Passport
>> coverage. The US folks and we Aussies don't have such a scheme.   
>> The firmer
>> shutter mode selection has been a much requested change in some  
>> quarters too
>> (to reduce the likelyhood of inadvertant self timer selection).  
>> Will you be
>> doing something differently regarding transporting/using your  
>> camera there
>> now ?
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/17 Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>
>>> Yes, the administrative details were handled between Leica Solms  
>>> and Leica
>>> UK, and the other day my M8 arrived back in Alicante. The main  
>>> switch is now
>>> firm and clicks into place as it should--in fact, it is a bit too  
>>> firm for
>>> my taste but I am not going to complain about that. In other  
>>> respects, the
>>> camera is fine, as it was before.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>
>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Jan 17, 2010, at 8:12 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>
>>>> This sounds like good news for you, Nathan. So the corrosion  
>>>> damge was
>>>> repaired at no cost under the UK Passport guarantee for you? Are  
>>>> you
>>> happy
>>>> with the condition and performance of your M8 on its return?
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/1/17 Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>>>>
>>>>> Now that I have my M8 back, it will be a while before I use  
>>>>> film again.
>>> But
>>>>> in the meantime, I finished scanning and editing another 4  
>>>>> rolls this
>>> past
>>>>> week, and have put 28 new images in my film gallery on Smugmug.  
>>>>> This one
>>> and
>>>>> the next 27:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu/Other/Sometimes-I-use-film/ 
>>> 7590141_XFqsu#766329409_wWLQU-O-LB
>>>>>
>>>>> All made with Ilford FP4 Plus and developed by Copia Lab in  
>>>>> Barcelona.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>
>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search? 
>>>>> search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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