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Subject: [Leica] Walking along the Seine in Paris
From: boklm at mars-attacks.org (nicolas vigier)
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:44:38 +0100
References: <20100127161430.GQ22732@mars-attacks.org> <A572F3BC-7E50-470E-9009-1846DD4AFA6D@frozenlight.eu> <20100128194140.GW22732@mars-attacks.org> <056CAE78-06EB-4136-9E94-130690AEA23E@frozenlight.eu> <20100128214100.GX22732@mars-attacks.org> <860BB728-49A9-4280-BB9E-D2B51278F4DC@frozenlight.eu>

I think it is stricter in theory. But in practice, maybe I'm wrong, but
I doubt a lot of people had problems with this law. Unless the pictures
were used commercialy, in magazines, or stolen pictures of famous people.

Nicolas

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Nathan Wajsman wrote:

> I think Spain is more like the rest of Europe, i.e. if you are not using 
> the pictures commercially then you are OK. France is the outlier. I think 
> it has always been stricter than the other countries in this regard, and 
> became even more so following the death of Princess Diana.
> 
> Here is an example of my Paris pics:
> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt8.jpg
> Whether this is embarrassing or not of course depends on whether the 
> spouse of one of the two people in the image happens to see it ;-)
> 
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:41 PM, nicolas vigier wrote:
> 
> > Ah yes, in theory this is not legal :)
> > 
> > In my case, I don't ask permissions, but :
> > - my website doesn't have a large audience, so I think risk is low that
> >   someone notice themself on a picture and become angry
> > - if someone ask, I would remove their photo (it did not happen yet)
> > - people on the pictures are not shown in embarassing situations, so I
> >   think it is unlikely they will want to sue.
> > 
> > So maybe it's illegal, but I think risk is quite low (I hope).
> > 
> > But yes, this law is a little annoying. What is the law about this in
> > Spain ?
> > 
> > Nicolas
> > 
> > On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> http://www.kbkcl.co.uk/2008/03/privacy-law-the-french-experience/
> >> 
> >> and
> >> 
> >> http://www.presscouncil.org.au/pcsite/apcnews/may99/privacy.html
> >> 
> >> Quoting from the latter article:
> >> 
> >> "Christian Ducasse, of the French association of journalists, reporters 
> >> and film-makers, told the Telegraph: "There's a new case every day. In 
> >> the past only celebrities sued. Now the judges have decided it's the 
> >> turn of the average man in the street. But it is impossible to ask a 
> >> crowd of demonstrators if it minds being photographed."
> >> 
> >> Citing last year's triumphant World Cup crowds as an example, he said: 
> >> "I heard people around me say, 'Let him go ahead; don't stop him, we'll 
> >> hit the jackpot later.'"
> >> 
> >> The work of photographers such as Henri Cartier-Bresson and Robert 
> >> Doisneau has virtually been ruled out of order. They are noted for the 
> >> photographs of the passing scene, but if they photographed people 
> >> without their permission they would now catch the wrath of the courts. 
> >> Privacy and photography came to prominence around the world with the 
> >> death of Princess Diana in Paris in 1997."
> >> 
> >> I too have pics on my web site that violate French law, but at least I 
> >> live outside France...
> >> 
> >> Nathan
> >> 
> >> Nathan Wajsman
> >> Alicante, Spain
> >> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> >> http://www.greatpix.eu
> >> http://www.nathanfoto.com
> >> 
> >> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
> >> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
> >> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:41 PM, nicolas vigier wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Wonderful, Nicolas, but be careful, the gendarmerie may come knocking 
> >>>> on your door ;-)
> >>> 
> >>> Ah ? Why ? :)
> >>> 
> >>> Nicolas
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