Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/03/22

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Subject: [Leica] Digital academia
From: john.nebel at csdco.com (John Nebel)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:41:39 -0600
References: <738445.1885.qm@web111708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20100317201614.GB417@selenium.125px.com> <20100318144905.GC22732@mars-attacks.org> <25D10E3B-53AC-4092-9406-F91C2C2C8D8D@aotera.org> <20100318192008.GD417@selenium.125px.com> <60940A68-4EE4-45DD-89FC-996496721208@aotera.org> <4BA809CA.90304@csdco.com> <0CBC8CD2-DBFE-458A-B340-15A4AE06FEB3@aotera.org>

Spencer,

LTO4 tapes are around $30/ea on ebay in lots of 20.  The drives are 
$thousands, 
but one drive is infinite offline storage.

John

Spencer Cheng wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Very nice. The techie in me says "Cool. Can I borrow it?" :)
> 
> I am not sure I want to know how much those LT04 tapes are. :))
> 
> My home built NAS cost about $1K including 5.5Tb of disk space. Good 
> enough for my purpose. Nowhere near as cool as yours though.
> 
> Regards,
> Spencer
> 
> On Mar 22, 2010, at 20:22, John Nebel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Spencer,
>>
>> Your post motivated me to photo part of the internals of a backup device, 
>> a robotic tape library with a petabyte capacity (600+ 1.6 terabyte tapes).
>>
>> http://www.ancientmoney.org/library.html
>>
>> If one has the space, time, and and a bit of knowledge, things like this 
>> can be acquired fairly inexpensively.  I had installed a couple of LTO4 
>> tape drives, and someone in Quantum service became upset and canceled a 
>> $20K/year maintenance contract - one is not allowed to work on their own 
>> equipment under their rules.
>> Generally speaking, it is a reasonable position, however, not in every 
>> case. Quantum left me stranded with a broken hoist cable for the robotics 
>> platform, and I'd made the mistake of power-cycling the library and 
>> nothing would come online. The tape drive enclosures have electronic 
>> switches which only allow the drives to power up after the robotic 
>> diagnostics succeed. $10 for stainless steel aircraft cable (not for use 
>> in aircraft, of course) and $50 for cutting and swaging tools and it was 
>> back in operation.
>>
>> Quantum gave a credit for the prepaid maintenance which bought a pallet 
>> of tapes.  Ultimately Quantum was apologetic and showed good integrity.
>>
>> I found a used library for $5.5K which works perfectly and provides the 
>> necessary backup for the backup device.
>>
>> In the process I looked into the library's controller and found its OS 
>> quite comforting, Linux. The OCP is a tiny flat screen xterm with a four 
>> button keyboard and the library runs Apache for its web interface.  I 
>> think the interface between the robotics and the processor is serial with 
>> simple ascii commands. The interface between the tape drives and the 
>> outside is fibre channel through bridge cards.  One talks to the Linux 
>> processor over ethernet, however, there is also a fibre channel card in 
>> the controller so that robotic commands may be sent via scsi over fc by 
>> the hosts.
> 
> 
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