Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/03

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Subject: [Leica] Micro 4/3rds
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:11:50 -0500
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Doug,

Have you used the 250 f/4? How does it compare with the 280?

Jim

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> 
wrote:
> Henning Wulff wrote:
>
>>The reason I said the 'boat' example is a valid comparison is that
>>the lenses are of equal speed (and approximate cost) and neither can
>>be used with any other stabilizing system other than the shock
>>absorption of your body.
>
> You can use a shoulder stock.
>
>>The 'land' comparison isn't valid as laid out because you're
>>comparing a $1500 lens against a $3500 or so lens, and when you allow
>>tripod or other serious bracing options IS is taken out of the
>>equation.
>
> I don't follow, Henning.
>
>>In your situation, Doug, where you take the time to properly
>>research, stalk and approach a creature and use the best lens and
>>best support IS becomes irrelevant unless you are forced to suddenly
>>take a shot with your 280/4 plus converter handheld at 1/30 second.
>>Then IS _might_ be useful.
>
> I often get subject motion at 1/250 sec, so a steady camera at 1/30 sec is 
> irrelevant.
>
>>I've shot with 400mm+ lenses since the early 60's, and have had 400mm
>>lenses of various qualities. The best lens optically I've had is the
>>first generation of 400/5.6 Nikkor P-C that had exotic glass but had
>>not yet been marketed as 'ED'.
>
> I've also used this lens. ?I'm equally unimpressed with it's handling, but 
> after using the 280mm f/4 APO with 1.4x extender, the Nikkor's image 
> quality didn't wow me.
>
>
>>IS is not a panacea but in many circumstances can allow you to get an
>>image that you couldn't get otherwise.
>
> I'm not disputing this but...
>
>>Many types of photography depend on getting the shot at all at some
>>level, and the ultimate technical quality doesn't make/break the
>>shot.
>
> Here's where my priorities suggest something other than getting the shot 
> at all.
>
>> Here IS can be a huge aid, whether or not image quality is
>> compromised, which I still believe is minimal in an of itself.
>
> Do you have any evidence to substantiate this belief? ?The Canon 300mm 
> example suggests otherwise, and that's not even including color quality in 
> the discussion.
>
> Doug Herr
> Birdman of Sacramento
> http://www.wildlightphoto.com
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from afirkin at afirkin.com (afirkin at afirkin.com) ([Leica] Micro 4/3rds and IMAGE STABILIZATION)
In reply to: Message from wildlightphoto at earthlink.net (Doug Herr) ([Leica] Micro 4/3rds)