Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/04/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]You can't make a m4/3 believer out of Rabs. I was raised Roman Catholic and saying that to Rabs is like saying to me hey, come to one of these Unitarian meetings, sit on a straight-back chair, discuss ethical points of view, have some tea, and we might just get you interested! To which I say, "Oh no baby I need the blood coming out of the hands and feet and ribcage. Otherwise I could be home watching football." On the camera front I can see both points of view being too poor for any other digital means of shooting my best lenses and taking GREAT pleasure in how good some of my G1 pictures look at 100 and 200 percent -- but I agree with Mark that if I had an M8 or an M9 I wouldn't mess with nothing else. Except maybe a full frame dslr like the D700 or the Sony A850 or the Canon 5D Mark II, the latter two easily mounting Leica R lenses... Yeah that would be sweet. Not quite as good as, you know, eternal salvation -- but close, damn close. V On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know about totally effing great, but I have seen a lot of good > images taken with these cameras. Good enough to put slide film out of > business. And the camera can be carried around without a lot of fuss with > no > need to fill one's pockets with film. It looks enough like a cheap camera > that one won't likely get mugged for it (it's safer to just steal one's > sister's point and shoot to buy a rock of crack). > > Have you seen the results of a raw image from one of these little cameras? > It could just make a believer out of you. > > Jeffery > > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Vince Passaro wrote: > > > You guys are only fanning the flames, man. He's gonna come over that > hilltop > > like a lion now. > > > > What you're essentially saying is: this is a totally effing great -- > > stupendous -- step up from point and shoot digital pocket cameras, why > it's > > so well done, it's almost if you close one eye just about as good as a > good > > APS-C. > > > > Which is true. > > > > What Mark is saying is: this is not a serious camera because no amount of > > features or good technology can overcome its sensor size issues and if > > you're serious as an artist or a professional you should be talking about > > something else. > > > > Which is probably also true. > > > > Though, to do justice to the camera and to artists in general, a serious > > artist can make something lasting out of a stick and a rock. So the m4/3 > > cameras are at least good enough to make very good pictures with. Just > not > > at big enough size/high enough res to pass muster professionally. > > > > I still expect to hear screams and broken bones in the dark of night > > however. > > > > Vince > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:33 PM, David Rodgers <drodgers at casefarms.com > >wrote: > > > >> I bought a GF-1 because it seemed the most economical way for me to be > >> able to use some of my existing lenses -- which quite frankly were > >> gathering dust -- as well as replace a 5-year old Fuji P&S. > >> > >> Micro Four Thirds is better than I anticipated and it has rekindled my > >> interest in photography. I'm sure an EP-2 would have done the same. > >> > >> The image quality from micro Four Thirds format is pretty darn good. > >> Where it's lacking, compared to an FX format camera like the D700 is the > >> low light capability. Still, Micro Four Thirds is OK at 1600 and really > >> good at 400-800. Thus light gathering capability isn't a strength (OTOH, > >> after years of shooting Tri_X, it isn't necessarily a weakness either). > >> > >> Resolution is excellent for such small sized cameras. Image quality is > >> closer to an APS-C camera than a P&S, but camera size is closer to a P&S > >> than an APS-C camera. > >> > >> On top of all that there seems to be a lot of R&D surrounding the format > >> right now. That's resulting in good optics, good camera features, and > >> generally more options from which to choose. > >> > >> Dave R > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >