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Subject: [Leica] Macro
From: len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:31:16 -0400
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Hi Tina,

You've been struggling with a good macro setup for a couple years  
now. I think you tried (handled) the macro 90mm and didn't care for  
it. Macro photography would probably be a very small portion of your  
photography so an expensive solution doesn't make sense. It also  
sounds like something the size of the M9 is about it. Maybe the G9 or  
something similar is the way to go. Finding the right lens would be  
the next search.

I don't know where the time is going. I've had my macro 90mm for 4  
years now. I wouldn't be without it.

Good luck in your search.
Len


On Jul 14, 2010, at 9:15 PM, Tina Manley wrote:

>>
>> I wish!!  But it's $3,795.00!!  And unavailable at B&H :-(   My  
>> husband
>> (and financial manager) would kill me.
>
>
> Tina
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Geoff Hopkinson  
> <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Tina  of course it depends on just how close you want to go. Going  
>> down to
>> a
>> smaller sensor size also has the effect in practice of increasing  
>> the DoF
>> as
>> you would know.
>> I encourage you to look at the the Macro Elmar 90. The quality is  
>> certainly
>> there and it is by far the most compact solution to add to your  
>> bag too.
>> Framing is very accurate with and without the adapter. At closest  
>> focus it
>> covers about 6 inches by 9 inches and with the macro adapter down  
>> to  2.8
>> inches x 4.25 inches. Compromising only by a crop to equivalent  
>> from an M8
>> you get smaller fields again but still all of the quality you  
>> could wish
>> for
>> stock or print to that camera's standards too. Tht gives you some
>> compositional leeway too naturally.
>> The working distance is greater than a true macro too, of course.
>> As a bonus it is a fine portrait lens or compact short tele. In  
>> rendering
>> it
>> is different in character to the ASPH. designs for those  
>> applications but
>> still plenty of sharpness obtainable.
>>
>> You may have seen this a little while ago. This version is at 100%  
>> for web
>> viewing but you can see the detail and quality I'm sure.
>>
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/124448398
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>>
>> On 15 July 2010 08:56, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I do still have my Canon 5D and 1DMII, with macro lenses, but  
>>> I've been
>>> spoiled by carrying around the M9.  Those Canons seem huge!  My  
>>> daughter
>> is
>>> using the 5D and making a little extra money shooting weddings and
>> babies.
>>>  I'd hate to take it back from her.  I've been impressed with the  
>>> quality
>>> of
>>> some of the macro photos posted but they are web photos.  I guess  
>>> I need
>> to
>>> look at big prints, too.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Mark Rabiner  
>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> LUG:
>>>>>
>>>>> The M8 and M9 are not the best choices for macro photography, even
>> with
>>>> the
>>>>> Visoflex.  I've been looking for a cheap alternative to carry  
>>>>> along
>>> just
>>>> for
>>>>> macro.  Somebody on one of my stock lists uses this combination:
>>>>  G9/Olympus
>>>>> B-Macro doublet (f=40cm) I assume that means the Canon G9, but  
>>>>> what
>>> lens
>>>> is
>>>>> that?  I can't find it with Google.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>>
>>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is much much earlier to shoot macro with each successive smaller
>>> format;
>>>> A Canon G9 gives you a normal lens or diagonal of 9.50 mm's!!!
>>>> So that's several formats down from all the other stuff you are
>> shooting.
>>>> So you'd measure your approach and use of your macro stuff vs. your
>>> regular
>>>> stuff.
>>>> If it was me  I'd want them to be the same quality of my other  
>>>> work; if
>>> not
>>>> better. So I'd not go down all those formats to shoot it but try to
>> match
>>>> it. .. macro is a mixed and difficult bag so I'd ask what  
>>>> exactly are
>> you
>>>> shooting how close and used for what.
>>>> I'd advise putting a Canon macro lens on a full frame canon  
>>>> camrea as I
>>>> think you've got one  of those bodies already. If you sold them  
>>>> I'd buy
>>> one
>>>> back again.
>>>> All kinds of compact and big and expensive  Macro glass Canon  
>>>> options.
>>>> One thing catching my eye is the
>>>> Canon Macro Photo MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Manual Focus Lens for EOS  
>>>> which
>>> cost
>>>> just under grand at B&H.
>>>> If it was me I'd  have this with me for hen I needed to get  
>>>> closer than
>>>> what
>>>> the M system is good for.
>>>> The M system though is underestimated for how close it can easy go.
>>>> I forgot which lens gives me the smallest magnification it may  
>>>> be the
>> 135
>>>> 3.4 APO. I think you can shoot a 5x7 with those. A 90 would be
>> certainly
>>> ok
>>>> certainly with the macro thing the macro 90.
>>>> And if I was wanting smaller stuff than that id use a DSLR with
>> hopefully
>>> a
>>>> full frame sensor but maybe a 1.5 or close to it crop circle.  
>>>> Depending
>>> on
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> Canon has a compact 50 a nice 60 and a bigish 100.
>>>> And using a zoom in the macro rehelm can be under estimated.
>>>> They seem to have those options as well.
>>>> But it would seem you want it to be very compact.
>>>> Then I'd get a Rebel 1.5 body with a compact macro on the front  
>>>> of it.
>>>> There is something to be said for a cheap, lightweight, compact   
>>>> 1.5
>> crop
>>>> DSLR.
>>>> I use them everyday.
>>>>
>>>> [Rabs]
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>
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>
>
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
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