Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/25

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 06:47:16 +1000
References: <629C0AE8-7426-4557-895D-DABEDBA91071@sfr.fr> <C963E6EC.9CA2%mark@rabinergroup.com> <AANLkTi=9BtbsPQgr_5QeL9N9xZyTPZa4BsUN49pYJbdO@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTi=49FYEStp8_2RdFz0jr=ex=RM9iYEigf0CN8SZ@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimk7fzKx81hXNr54Es3OvDTP3NdBeNkLUEA0sSL@mail.gmail.com>

Yep, of course on the R to S adapter.
On the digital M development, just the facts, ma-am ;-)
I don't know who fibbed to you in mid 1990's. Maybe they would have had to
kill you otherwise!
Of course the Brisbane City Council also assured me in 1995 that the highest
floodwater will ever get in 100 years is just below my property line. I'm
thinking of installing pontoons and a landing dock at the front door for
next time.

I read that Stefan Daniel took over M production in 1999. How can you not
trust a man who started as a mechanic apprentice with Leica when he was 16
;-)  ;-)
Actually seemed like a heck of a nice guy when I heard him talking a couple
of times and was very candid. I have never read a word he said that is not
true.

Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen
Hoppyman  Leica Camera AG
Red Dot Promotion Department
Solmser Gewerbepark 8 / D-35606 Solms / Germany

On 25 January 2011 23:12, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was joking about the S2 Geoff.  Stefan should quit and let you sell
> the cool aid, er, I mean advertise Leica.
>
> A lot was said before Stefan became the official spokesperson for the
> company.  I was told twice to my face that a digital M was impossible
> in the mid 1990s.
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I think that you are safe from seeing an adapter to fit R to S. I'm not
> so
> > sure that many R lens owners regard spending 25 thousand or whatever as a
> > solution to use those lenses anyway!
> >
> > Back on the difficulties with producing a digital M can you imagine what
> the
> > camera would have cost in the earlier days of dSLR's? I think that they
> were
> > tellling the truth at the time with the then current sensor
> > technology/costs.
> >
> > This is historically interesting from Stefan Daniel (pre-M8 actual
> release)
> >
> > .........Beyond that the digital M will have a focal length crop factor
> of
> > 1.33. This technical constraint is necessary because our top priority is
> to
> > deliver the utmost picture quality. Given the optical reality of M lenses
> > and today's state of sensor technology, the ideal solution for our
> > customers, a full-format sensor, would not live up to our high standards.
> > This is particularly true for aspects such as vignetting and sharpness
> from
> > image centre to corner. In this respect we've already reduced the
> thickness
> > of the cover glass and filters located before the sensor to an absolute
> > minimum so that laterally impacting light rays do not cause unwanted
> > calculations. The radius of the micro lenses and their positioning before
> > the sensor was designed in such a way that they channel as much light
> onto
> > the pixel as possible. These measures and others ensure the picture
> quality
> > that one has come to expect from the M system. The crop factor was
> selected
> > so that the same picture angles are maintained - all one has to do is
> take a
> > different lens: a 21mm turns intoa 28mm, a 28 into a 35. Having
> considered
> > our options we are convinced that this is the best solution, in terms of
> > attainable picture quality and - since the costs of a sensor increase
> > exponentially to their size - in terms of the price of a digital M....
> >  Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 25 January 2011 17:36, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The worst thing would be if all they can come up with is an adaptor
> >> for the S2.  I know Leica have said they won't, but they also said
> >> they couldn't make a digital M, then a full-frame digital M . . . and
> >> so many other things.  Lucky I like their cameras and lenses a lot.
> >>
> >> Marty
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > The worst thing could happen they actually do come out with an R10.
> The
> >> we
> >> > have to face the fact that we don't have nine grand USD. Just like
> many
> >> of
> >> > us had to face the fact that we don't have the seven grand for an M9.
> We
> >> > have to be careful what we wish for. Make sure we also wish not just
> for
> >> an
> >> > M9 or R10 but the money to get one us to buy one too.
> >> > Doesn't do me any good with all the other nice photographers shooting
> >> with
> >> > an M9. I need to have one.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --------------------
> >> > Mark William Rabiner
> >> > Photography
> >> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >> > mark at rabinergroup.com
> >> > Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> >> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:48:39 +0100
> >> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Le 25 janv. 11 ? 04:13, Sonny Carter a ?crit :
> >> >>
> >> >>> Give it up;  we don't need no R10.
> >> >>
> >> >> Give me a dream though ;-)
> >> >> Marylin, Elvis, and the man on the moon were,
> >> >> and still remain for some.
> >> >>
> >> >> Amicalement
> >> >> Philippe
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> Leica Users Group.
> >> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Leica Users Group.
> >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Leica Users Group.
> >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Leica Users Group.
> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>


Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video)
In reply to: Message from philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard) ([Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video)
Message from benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney) ([Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video)
Message from hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video)
Message from benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney) ([Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video)