Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/01/25

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Subject: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:34:47 +1000
References: <629C0AE8-7426-4557-895D-DABEDBA91071@sfr.fr> <C963E6EC.9CA2%mark@rabinergroup.com> <AANLkTi=9BtbsPQgr_5QeL9N9xZyTPZa4BsUN49pYJbdO@mail.gmail.com>

I think that you are safe from seeing an adapter to fit R to S. I'm not so
sure that many R lens owners regard spending 25 thousand or whatever as a
solution to use those lenses anyway!

Back on the difficulties with producing a digital M can you imagine what the
camera would have cost in the earlier days of dSLR's? I think that they were
tellling the truth at the time with the then current sensor
technology/costs.

This is historically interesting from Stefan Daniel (pre-M8 actual release)

.........Beyond that the digital M will have a focal length crop factor of
1.33. This technical constraint is necessary because our top priority is to
deliver the utmost picture quality. Given the optical reality of M lenses
and today's state of sensor technology, the ideal solution for our
customers, a full-format sensor, would not live up to our high standards.
This is particularly true for aspects such as vignetting and sharpness from
image centre to corner. In this respect we've already reduced the thickness
of the cover glass and filters located before the sensor to an absolute
minimum so that laterally impacting light rays do not cause unwanted
calculations. The radius of the micro lenses and their positioning before
the sensor was designed in such a way that they channel as much light onto
the pixel as possible. These measures and others ensure the picture quality
that one has come to expect from the M system. The crop factor was selected
so that the same picture angles are maintained - all one has to do is take a
different lens: a 21mm turns intoa 28mm, a 28 into a 35. Having considered
our options we are convinced that this is the best solution, in terms of
attainable picture quality and - since the costs of a sensor increase
exponentially to their size - in terms of the price of a digital M....
 Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 25 January 2011 17:36, Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote:

> The worst thing would be if all they can come up with is an adaptor
> for the S2.  I know Leica have said they won't, but they also said
> they couldn't make a digital M, then a full-frame digital M . . . and
> so many other things.  Lucky I like their cameras and lenses a lot.
>
> Marty
>
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> > The worst thing could happen they actually do come out with an R10. The
> we
> > have to face the fact that we don't have nine grand USD. Just like many
> of
> > us had to face the fact that we don't have the seven grand for an M9. We
> > have to be careful what we wish for. Make sure we also wish not just for
> an
> > M9 or R10 but the money to get one us to buy one too.
> > Doesn't do me any good with all the other nice photographers shooting
> with
> > an M9. I need to have one.
> >
> >
> > --------------------
> > Mark William Rabiner
> > Photography
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> > mark at rabinergroup.com
> > Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:48:39 +0100
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hullo. Leica R Solution - now in video
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 25 janv. 11 ? 04:13, Sonny Carter a ?crit :
> >>
> >>> Give it up;  we don't need no R10.
> >>
> >> Give me a dream though ;-)
> >> Marylin, Elvis, and the man on the moon were,
> >> and still remain for some.
> >>
> >> Amicalement
> >> Philippe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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