Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/03/13

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Subject: [Leica] Government and school pensions
From: keith at wesselphoto.com (Keith Wessel)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:27:25 -0500
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They are close.  I have never seen anything like this in the US that
reminded me of a third world coup before.  This is very close if not there.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+keith=wesselphoto.com at leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+keith=wesselphoto.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Frank Filippone
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 6:43 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Leica] Government and school pensions

But George, we can......  The legislation did not forbid the
discussion......

If you want to look at this aspect, remember that the politicians that NEED
to work this out, are elected ( substitute the word.. employed.....) at the
whim of the people that they would hurt by doing ANYTHING to the present
pension system, except leave it alone or improve the benefits......  Their
fear is that if they try to discuss these issues, ,they lose their jobs.....

The BIG difference to the private sector......  where this kind of
discussion usually get the management guy a raise......

Frank Filippone
Red735i at earthlink.net

> But it was expected they would die from old age 3 years after
retirement...
> 62 and 65 years old......
> 
> Now we retire at 62 ( or 55 if you are a fireman or policeman) and die 
> at 85.....
> 
> Pension plans never thought that would happen....at least the old time 
> ones.....


Then let's sit down, as adults in a democratic republic, and discuss the
matter at hand.
I'm sure we can negotiate a reasonable way to work out our problems
collectively.

Regards,
George Lottermoser
Leica Users Group.
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