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Subject: [Leica] LUG question M4
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:27:44 +0100
References: <C9B454BD.44FEA%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com>

Sounds like you are not pulling the film far enough through the 3 legged 
tulip take-up spool. I just pull out the film the right length (which I 
learned fairly quickly) palm the film and cassette down into the body and 
replace the base. Never had a miss-load in 20+ years.
FD

On 27 Mar, 2011, at 07:43, Chris Crawford wrote:

> I have an M6 and the load system is a pain. The film slips out about 70% of
> the time, so I start winding with the bottom off and if it slips, I redo 
> it.
> I close the back and place the bottom on after I wind a frame to be sure 
> its
> staying on and is tight. It slips off if the film is loose on the takeup, 
> as
> it is if the film slips a bit when you begin to wind the first time.
> 
> 
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> On 3/27/11 1:26 AM, "Alan Magayne-Roshak" <amr3 at uwm.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 Jim Shulman <jshulman at judgecrater.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone else had multiple problems with the Leica quick-load system?
>> 
>>> I recently acquired an M4, and have wound up trashing about a half-dozen
>>> rolls of film (and far too many lost shots) because the &^%$#@! film had 
>>> not
>>> advanced.  I?ve tried checking it (it seems to be advancing before I shut
>>> the door), and I still lose rolls.
>> 
>>> I?ve NEVER lost a roll with the old style spool threading to a misload.  
>>> Is
>>> it me, or is there something strange with this system that I?m missing?  
>>> At
>>> this rate I?ll probably look to swap it for a CLAd M2 with the good old
>>> spool system. 
>> 
>>> Jim Shulman 
>>> Wynnewood, PA 
>> ==============================================================================
>> ======================
>> It's not you.  Back when our department was all film, I got to use some 
>> M4's,
>> but I also always had trouble getting them to load reliably.
>> This is one of the reasons I prefer the M3 and M2.  I find my IIIf easier 
>> to
>> load than the M4, too; I've never had the film fail to advance in it.
>> While having a built in meter would be handy, I've never wanted an M6 
>> because
>> of the supposed quick load feature and also because the build quality 
>> didn't
>> feel as solid as the 2 or 3 to me. I never handled an M7.
>> 
>> I vote for the spool system too.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
>> UPAA POY 1978
>> University Information Technology Services
>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
>> amr3 at uwm.edu
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/
>> 
>> 
>> 
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