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Subject: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 00:07:38 -0800
References: <CAF8hL-FuD6axiU6LgsmL4LSHCRs1O1x5UvHaxwaEQq=LTufTWg@mail.gmail.com> <CB788724.1B15C%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Ken Rockwell (yes we know, we know) claims that the newer Superwide is "not
as good" since they took out an element or something to make it cheaper to
produce, and claims that the Mamiya 7 43mm is a "truer Biogon than the
Hasselblad (late) Superwide." What's your opinion on that? Obviously the
Mamiya 7 is not as good for architecture since it's a rangefinder.

I don't shoot architecture, certainly not for money, so this is just for
edification purpose.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> A Hasselblad superwide gives you a 6x6cm image from a true symmetrical
> classical wide angle lens with a very small  footprint. Its very small and
> unobtrusive. In a way a medium format Leica M of the true wide variety.
> Its just as effective hand held as it is carefully used on a tripod.
> And its legacy combined with simplicity of operation puts it in a class
> beyond Alpa/Cambo.
> Certainly some of this Rodenstock or Schneider glass is more cutting edge
> but the Biogon is not a lens which needs to be improved upon. And its
> legacy
> is proved with an image search you can see the work of people using it and
> that work stretches back from the present many decades.
> A Hasselblad superwide or whatever you want to call it is not a here today
> gone tomorrow investment. Its remained supremely viable for half a century.
>
> Here's how it looked (the same basic design camera) 1954
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/redpike69/2361508600/
>
> --
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>
>
> > From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2012 23:18:51 -0800
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton
> >
> > I think we should let Biogon be Biogon. Most architectural people are now
> > using Alpa/Cambo with the digital back and using Rodenstock Digitar or
> > Schneider lens.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes a Hasselblad superwide could also get me scanning film. And paying
> for
> >> it. I've dreamed about that camera for half my life. A life support
> system
> >> for a 38mm Biogon T* CF.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark R.
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 06:30:07 +0000
> >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (IMG) More film scans - Beckton
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Mark, I have staved off the desire to buy back into film - well
> >> maybe a
> >>> 903/905 SWC/M again one day...
> >>>
> >>> Did you look at my http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/Geevor shots?
> >>>
> >>> john
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Great shots! My kinda photography. And again I'm glad I still have my
> >> Cambo
> >>> 4x5.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Mark R.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Beckton Gas Works (east London) from May 1993 -
> >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beckton_Gas_Works
> >>>>
> >>>> I was first on this site in 1988 not long after Full Metal Jacket did
> >> some
> >>>> filming here, there were buildings painted with Vietnamese writing and
> >> a few
> >>>> palm trees still surviving. I will probably find some more photos from
> >>>> different times as I work my way through....
> >>>>
> >>>> http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/Beckton
> >>>>
> >>>> C & C welcome
> >>>>
> >>>> John Hasselblad mostly SWC/M, FP4+
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Leica Users Group.
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >
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-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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