Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/07

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Subject: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 22:23:50 -0800
References: <B5F7292C-93FE-49F5-A9EC-18C38F0EDF4C@sfr.fr> <CB7DA889.1B44B%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I would assume that the notes are written after the different manipulations
are perfected. Certainly I have seen a lot of such markups from other
master printers.
 On Mar 7, 2012 9:07 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

> I cant figure out if this is an example of a kind of obsesive compulsive
> psychosis or an attempt at humor. There is also a famous one of a head from
> Avedon. An image marked up way past any reason or comprehension.
> I'll tell you what I think it is its drugs in the 80's.
> But it might be Public relations. Your clients are supposed to think that
> even though you  yourself are not making the prints the relation between
> you
> and your assistant or printer is so involved that its worth all the
> ridiculous money they are paying you for the job and or print.
>
> In reality when you go through sheets and sheets of paper in the darkroom
> its a rather organic process of trial and error. And you cant be reminded
> of
> it from a mark up or controlled by someone giving you a marked up thing
> like
> that. The printer has to sweat it out themselves. Adams called it a
> performance of a score. But your head is not buried in the score. You have
> to look up from time to time and cue your orchestra.
> --
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>
>
> > From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 22:21:14 +0100
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Magnum & the Dying Art of Darkroom Printing
> >
> > Nice document
> >
> > OTT: since manipulated comes the latin word for hand, as in handled -
> > I agree that LR is just on the right track then
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Philippe
> >
> > Le 7 mars 12 ? 18:25, Robert Baron a ?crit :
> >
> >> If you've never seen a notated print map, look here:
> >>
> >>
> http://theliteratelens.com/2012/02/17/magnum-and-the-dying-art-of-darkroom-pr
> >> inting/
> >>
> >> If that is necessary to achieve an excellent print from a film
> >> negative,
> >> why would it be inappropriate to do similar manipulation to achieve an
> >> excellent image from a digital negative?  Or to put it another way,
> >> why
> >> wouldn't it be a necessary part of your work?
> >>
> >> --Bob
> >>
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