Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/16

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Subject: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D sensor
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:45:54 -0400

I tested it with three developers and it was terrible with all.
It was way too expensive And not even iso 1600. It was more like 800.
I was not going to pay through the nose for an extra stop. For every roll of
twelve I shot
I'd rather just go from the 400 films. They did make tri x or HP5 or delta
400 in 400. Or Neopan 400.
And to me tab grain 400 films were high rez films.
I also for a thing like that liked 220.
120 on a tripod sure and I'd use iso 100 films.


-- 
Mark R.
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/


> From: Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 09:18:27 -0500 (CDT)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D sensor
> 
> Ilford has been making Delta 3200 film in 120 format for many years.
> Excellent stuff.
> 
> 
> On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> I shot a lot of medium format film.
>> I shot events with a Hasselblad for the most part.
>> Not Nikon or Leica.
>> I shot a lot of 220 Kodak tri x pro which was iso 320 and was tri x only 
>> in
>> name. I specialized in black and white. People thought that was artsy.
>> With the added size of medium format film and its need for more depth of
>> field it was a clear candidate for using a higher iso film then you would
>> when you shot 35mm. You'd not see the grain and you needed it
>> But you couldn't do it.
>> Because for the most part they didn't make it the stuff.
>> Neopan 1600 or color neg pro 1600 films didn't come in 120 let alone 220.
>> So it was a very frustrating thing.
>> What make it possible to do what did grabbing people in action with my
>> Hasselblad and sometimes even my Rolleiflex was my Norman 200C flash.
>> I was an f11 guy at 8 feet and be there. This was a manual flash with a
>> battery pack on your hip.
>> 
>> I wound have LOVED it if they made faster than 400 films in Brownie film 
>> for
>> my medium format cameras.
>> It never happened.
>> Shooting iso 320 or 400 films with those cameras was overkill to the max.
>> As it was in the end shooting those films with 35mm format.  And shooting 
>> at
>> those ISO's now with digital full frame. Overkill. Unless I plan on 
>> covering
>> some of the larger walls at Grand Central Terminal which is not on my 
>> short
>> list.
>> I think of the 400 iso area now as "high rez".
>> Much like I thought of Panatomic or Agfapan 25 in the 1980's.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Mark R.
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3 at mac.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:33:59 -0500
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] S2 vs. 645D sensor
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 4:52 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know if the S2 has microlens ala M9 or is that deemed not
>>>> necessary?
>>>> 
>>>> Thread here:
>>>> http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/medium-format-systems-digital-backs/35511-mul
>>>> ti
>>>> -part-leica-s2-review.html
>>> 
>>> Who cares?
>>> They won't shoot ISO 132,000
>>> ;~)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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