Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/31

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Subject: [Leica] 50mm ZM C-Sonnar
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:29:16 +1000
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Jan 'over-priced Leica hype' and people going to great lengths to make you
feel inferior????
Those are pretty tough accusations to level about the posting members in
general I think.
Why not respond to specific posts where you disagree instead? Room for all
views. We have all kinds of photos from all kinds of gear and most members
are very tolerant and interested in general.
Even better show some of your own work as examples of how well your
equipment works for you?

Cheers,
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman



On 31 March 2012 06:21, Jan Decher <wanderjan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Phil,
> I fully second what you wrote.  It is amazing to what length some people on
> this list go to make folks who don't buy into the overpriced Leica hype and
> opt to use Zeiss ZM or Cosina lenses or a Zeiss ZM or Cosina Voigtlander
> body instead feel inferior.
> I use the Biogon 2.8/35 and 4.5/21mm  and am very happy with the build
> quality and amazed by the optical quality.  C-Sonnar 1.5/50 and Tele-Tessar
> 4/85 are on my short list.
> Note to Chris:  the C-Sonnar is widely available at well-known US
> retailers, except for a temporary bottleneck in delivery due to the Tsunami
> in Japan last year.
> Jan
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Phil Forrest <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 50mm ZM C-Sonnar
> Really? ZM vs Zeiss semantics in a LUGger's For Sale post? That's BS
> Mark. The glass is every bit as good as the best Zeiss designs and the
> 50mm Sonnar shows it. All the Zeiss offerings do. Before this current
> iteration of Zeiss it was Kyocera who had dominion over the company.
> Some lenses were made in Germany (as some of the current stable are as
> well) and those lenses for Contax SLR mount were absolutely top class
> designs and implementations.
> They aren't just ZM lenses. ZM is specifically for Leica M mount. they
> have also been made for Nikon S mount, Nikon F mount, Pentax K mount,
> Canon EOS mount and I may have missed one or two off the top of my head.
> If it's not Zeiss glass as you claim how does a 21mm or 28mm ZM lens
> perform at the same level or better than the current Leica designs?
> "Zeiss" glass doesn't matter in that case. It could be plastic Holga
> glass for all the people who actually make photographs with their
> lenses care over those pontificating about how Leica or old
> Zeiss or Schneider or whoever's lenses were the best...
> Phil Forrest
>
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Replies: Reply from tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca) ([Leica] DALLAS-FORT WORTH AREA TORNADOES?????????)
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