Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/04/08

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Subject: [Leica] Eggleston
From: billcpearce at cox.net (Bill Pearce)
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:36:54 -0500
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I agree. Dye transfer is a fine process, but it fulfilled a need when 
originated that is now not pertinent. One might be forgiven if questioning 
the need for a print that lasts longer than the usual chromogenic wet 
process paper (Epson vs. Kodak/Fuji). Considering appearance, I don't think 
there is a speck of difference to even a discerning viewer between a really 
good print and one I make on my Epson 3880. You can carry the quest for 
perfection to the highest degree, and become another Lloyd Chambers, but 
that doesn't serve art, and only blurs the line between craft and art more.

But we all spend too much time fretting over our craft, or we wouldn't be 
here.

Bill Pearce

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lew Schwartz
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 5:21 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Eggleston

The current crop of inkjet pigment inks are nothing to sneeze at
either. You may be right about the dye transfer, however, Early on,
Eggleston's were produced this way to accommodate the art market's
concerns about archival issues ... not only for the prints, but for
the archival black and white separation negs that are the background
of the process. Damaged or destroyed prints can (in theory) always be
replaced.

At a recent Eggleston show in NYC, dye transfers and inkjet pigment
prints were shown side by side. None of  my crowd, whom consider
themselves discerning, could tell the difference. Perhaps inkjet
pigment prints were described as "newer" than dye transfer to the
reporter and he, not knowing any better, misreported it as a new color
process.

On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Phil Swango <pswango at att.net> wrote:
> Lew Schwartz wrote:
>>Any idea what "utilized a new color printing process allowing for
>>high-quality reproductions" refers to?
>
> Not exactly but I've seen it referred to as pigment prints using digital
> technology.  The prints are really large -- I read they were 40x60 inches.
>  The original editions were done with the now obsolete dye transfer
> process, which was used mostly for commercial printing in the past.  I'm
> not sure how the new prints could have a richer gamut than the old ones,
> considering the superb reputation of dye transfer.  More here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye-transfer_process
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Eggleston)
In reply to: Message from pswango at att.net (Phil Swango) ([Leica] Eggleston)
Message from lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz) ([Leica] Eggleston)