Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/04/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]AND GEOFF SAID????????? >>>> Your content is invariably strong and most interesting, I only aim to > comment on the technical application aspects. > > Now Doctor Ted will hunt me down and stamp KISS into my forehead again! > <<<<<<< NAW I WONT DO THAT SIMPLY CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT! ;-) :-) :-) I just auto click every thing and as long as it "looks cool?" Then it's cool with me! See KISS!" ;-) cheers, Doc. ted ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Work Break > Thanks Tina I have a better understanding now. I have Vuescan Pro rather > than Silverfast but they have some comparable options in saving the raw > scan. A raw TIFF is where they initially started too but now also offer > DNG > option. Not the same as a DNG from you M9 of course but understood by LR > and PS still. A DNG is really only a TIFF with a few more tags anyway. I > don't think that you're gaining any quality specifically from that > conversion step. > Expanding on that Vuescan will also allow you to make concurrent output > from same scan (raw TIFF, TIFF DNG, JPEG etc) For scanning BW film you can > optionally have a scan as a positive (to let you invert later in PS) if > wanted. > > I guess with your raw scans saved you can go back and redevelop in > Silverfast without penalty too then? > > All of that is me getting off the initial point into related stuff I > suppose (quelle surprise!) but I think the central thing coming up from > our > comments is that the versions shown do have that HDR processed look for > some of us at least and for me the textures appear overly smoothed as > well. > Your content is invariably strong and most interesting, I only aim to > comment on the technical application aspects. > > Now Doctor Ted will hunt me down and stamp KISS into my forehead again! > > Cheers, > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > On 25 April 2012 08:11, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: > >> After it is saved as a raw tiff (Silverfast's term), I import it into >> LR4, >> convert it to a DNG and work on it just like any other raw file. I >> usually >> start with Auto Tone and sometimes don't need to do anything more. >> Lately, >> I've been playing with Superstition - the trial name for PSCS6. I was >> one >> of the beta testers and really like what you can do with >> Highlight/Shadows >> to pull details out of the shadows. I like the look but I'm gathering >> from >> some comments that others don't. I think Adobe will have made some >> changes >> in PSCS6 by the time it is released, so I may have to learn all of the >> new >> features again. Nothing that I've done is destructive. I'm working on >> copies so the original DNG file hasn't been touched. The Silverfast >> software that runs the scanner refers to the program I use as 48 bit HDR >> Color and I do believe it squeezes every bit of information out of the >> film. What you do with all of that information is what makes it look HDR >> or not. >> >> Tina >> >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com >> >wrote: >> >> > Tina possibly that may be a clue relating to the impressions of HDR >> effects >> > in the versions you are showing us? >> > "The scanner makes two scans, one for highlights and one for shadows >> > and >> > combines the information in one raw scan." >> > You might have said before but please refresh me. Which software >> processes >> > are you using then? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Geoff >> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> > >> > >> > >> > On 25 April 2012 06:01, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote: >> > >> > > None of those. I'm doing just what you suggest. The scanner makes >> > > two >> > > scans, one for highlights and one for shadows and combines the >> > information >> > > in one raw scan. All of the information is there in the scan. I'm >> just >> > > experimenting with the new Highlight/Shadow sliders in PSCS6. I'm >> > > also >> > > doing it in LR4 so none of the changes are destructive. The original >> > scans >> > > are still there for me to interpret any way I decide later. The only >> > > problem is that I have hundreds of thousands of scans and not that >> > > many >> > > years left! >> > > >> > > Tina >> > > >> > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at >> > > rabinergroup.com >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> > > > So what's going on are you using a double exposure sandwich blend >> > > > technique? >> > > > HDR? Third party software? >> > > > >> > > > Because its this added stuff which can make up loose our normal >> > > perspective >> > > > on our "prints". Makes us get way off balance. So its hard to judge >> the >> > > > prints we turn out. >> > > > I say if that's the case then just make a go of turning out >> > > > straight >> > > prints >> > > > from the scanner. Just let it multiscan at least 4 times maybe six! >> > That >> > > > will get the shadows in there. >> > > > >> > > > - - from my iRabs. >> > > > Mark Rabiner >> > > > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> >> > > > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> > > > > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:41:50 -0400 >> > > > > To: <MUGers at yahoogroups.com>, Leica Users Group < >> lug at leica-users.org >> > >, >> > > > paw >> > > > > <paw at micapeak.com>, seephoto <seephoto at micapeak.com> >> > > > > Subject: [Leica] IMG: Work Break >> > > > > >> > > > > PESO: >> > > > > >> > > > > And another one: >> > > > > >> > > > > http://www.pbase.com/image/142858666 >> > > > > >> > > > > M6, 35/1.4, Kodachrome 64 >> > > > > >> > > > > C&C greatly appreciated. >> > > > > >> > > > > Tina >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Tina Manley, ASMP >> > > > > www.tinamanley.com >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > Leica Users Group. >> > > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> information >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Leica Users Group. >> > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >> > > > information >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Tina Manley, ASMP >> > > www.tinamanley.com >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Leica Users Group. >> > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> Tina Manley, ASMP >> www.tinamanley.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information