Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I am 51 years old. I have 2 citizenships. Spain is the 7th country in which I have lived, 6th as an adult. Easy--maybe not. Eminently possible--yes. Cheers, Nathan Nathan Wajsman Alicante, Spain http://www.frozenlight.eu http://www.greatpix.eu http://www.nathanfoto.com PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ YNWA On May 12, 2012, at 7:34 AM, Phil Forrest wrote: > Just picking up and moving is that easy, huh? Not really. Not from this > point of view. > > Phil Forrest > > > On Sat, 12 May 2012 08:25:27 +0530 > Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: > >> US graduates should emigrate to where the jobs are, as generations of >> Asians and Latinos did before them! It will also kill the immigration >> debate in the USA, and transfer it to the Asian countries. As an >> example, there is a fair shortage of qualified engineers here in >> India, at salaries that will give you a top 3% lifestyle at Indian >> costs of living (which is much better than what you can expect in the >> USA overall), and without the baggage of knowing a foreign language, >> as English would do. I think North Americans are far too insular... >> Cheers >> Jayanand >> >> On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote: >> >>> The availability of jobs rise and wane due to many circumstances >>> such as the one listed below. However, I think there had been a >>> expectation that a college degree guarantees a good job, which has >>> never been the case. The demands from jobs is higher, and more >>> specialized. A general arts degree will essentially guarantee that >>> you will require more specialized education to enter a more >>> lucrative job market. >>> >>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Henning Wulff >>> <henningw at archiphoto.com >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> Here in Canada the job market is fragmented. While quite a few >>>> people, including university grads can't get decent paying jobs >>>> there are a lot >>> of >>>> well paying jobs that go unfilled. I believe the same is true in >>>> many developed countries, and especially the US. >>>> >>>> As an architect I regularly see trades that can't find skilled >>>> workers. The brick and tile layers that are really good are >>>> retiring, as most came from Europe in the 50's and 60's. Here >>>> there was never a decent system >>> for >>>> training them, and the jobs were considered 'beneath' people who >>>> could go to college. That kind of stigma and lack of training is >>>> coming back to >>> bite >>>> us. Lots of other trades are the same. >>>> >>>> If you do go to college, consider various engineering jobs. Many >>>> are desperately lacking in personnel. Many people are still going >>>> to >>> University >>>> in an undefined Arts program, and racking up tuition debts. Good >>>> luck! >>> It's >>>> not the fault only of the kids of course; it's mostly the fault of >>> general >>>> society. When you're 20, it's better to be seen as being enrolled >>>> in a literature program at a good college or university than >>>> being in a good training program as an elevator installer. But >>>> take a look at them 10 >>> years >>>> down the road, in our present economic trend. >>>> >>>> Henning >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2012-05-11, at 9:55 AM, grduprey at mchsi.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Engineering, computer science, and science graduates are highly >>>>> sought >>>> after here in the US. And just about anywhere in the world. As >>>> for Journalism, I know a young lady getting her degree in >>>> England/Germany who has several solid job offers waiting for her. >>>>> >>>>> Gene >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Phil Forrest" <photo.forrest at earthlink.net> >>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:05:16 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada >>>>> Central Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Monochrome >>>>> >>>>> I wish him the best of luck. >>>>> MS in Aerospace Eng is certainly a specialized field and >>>>> probably has a decent amount of opportunity after graduation. >>>>> >>>>> There are exceptions everywhere. Here in the US the job market >>>>> isn't as rosy and the educated are increasingly being forced to >>>>> work at very low wages. >>>>> >>>>> Phil Forrest >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 11 May 2012 06:56:08 +0200 >>>>> Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I do not wish to sound smug or uncaring, but I just cannot >>>>>> share your wholesale pessimism. I know that you have difficult >>>>>> circumstances and for a variety of reasons that have little to >>>>>> do with the economy are stuck in a depressed city. But I also >>>>>> know that my almost-23 year old son will graduate with a >>>>>> Masters in aerospace engineering next year (2013) and I know >>>>>> that thanks to his hard work at university, he will have good >>>>>> grades and will very likely find a well-paying after >>>>>> graduating. The only thing I do not know is exactly where that >>>>>> job will be--given his specialty, it could be on either side >>>>>> of the Atlantic. But it will certainly not be $7 an hour. >>>>>> >>>>>> And we are no 1-percenters. He attends a public university in >>>>>> England and will graduate with a (modest) tuition debt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Nathan >>>>>> >>>>>> Nathan Wajsman >>>>>> Alicante, Spain >>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>>>>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>>>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>>>>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> YNWA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 11, 2012, at 4:01 AM, Chris Crawford wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You have your head in the sand if you think that, Doug. The >>>>>>> world has changed, and my generation will never be permitted >>>>>>> the decent lives our parents had, no matter how hard we work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Chris Crawford >>>>>>> Fine Art Photography >>>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana >>>>>>> 260-437-8990 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com My portfolio >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com My latest work! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798 >>>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/10/12 9:11 PM, "Doug Herr" <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phil Forrest wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 10 May 2012 15:28:26 -0400 >>>>>>>>> Chris Crawford <chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This thing is so far outside the realm of even remote >>>>>>>>>> possibility for me that I frankly don't give a damn. What >>>>>>>>>> is Leica going to do when all the old people who have >>>>>>>>>> money because they began working before the $7 an hour >>>>>>>>>> economy was foisted upon their children have died, leaving >>>>>>>>>> the impoverished young who simply cannot even consider >>>>>>>>>> such equipment, no matter how good it is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been asking this question for years and no one will >>>>>>>>> give me an answer that works, instead insisting that Leica >>>>>>>>> will continue to exist. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The people who were asking this question forty years ago (I >>>>>>>> was there) now have the means to consider a Leica system. >>>>>>>> And it may very well be less than forty years but some day >>>>>>>> in the future many of today's younger adults will also be >>>>>>>> able to realistically buy into a Leica camera system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Doug Herr >>>>>>>> Birdman of Sacramento >>>>>>>> http://www.wildlightphoto.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>>> information >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Henning Wulff >>>> henningw at archiphoto.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ken Iisaka >>> first name at last name dot org or com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > -- > http://philipforrestphoto.wordpress.com/ > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >