Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/18

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Subject: [Leica] Shocking: MM images do not look like film!
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 02:29:18 -0400

My point is not to say people are saying film is better.
But that its being said there is a discernable difference even at smallish
file sizes Between film and digital imagery.
And I feel strongly there is no tonality advantages to film unless the sun
is in the picture behind some clouds. Maybe.
They only way you know film from digital is where the noise lands.
Highlights for film, shadows for digital.
And you see those kinds of things only in real big pix. Not the stuff we see
on the internet. Which tends in most cases to be the only stuff anybody ever
sees.

I'm against film emulation software which puts grain in the highlights and
gives a red over sensitive "tri x look".
Its baloney. And The inference is there is some advantage to the "film
Look".
Well there is no "film look". Not in the file sizes we see on the internet.

If I and a lot of photographers I know thought that there was some
worthwhile film look we'd be shooting film to get that look. Not digital and
hyper compensation for it.

I Can't Believe It's Yogurt!
I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!

I'm against doing one thing and pretending its another thing.
There's a real back stabbing passive aggressive element to it.


- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/


> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:46:24 +1200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Shocking: MM images do not look like film!
> 
> http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/leica-m-x-r/37364-leica-m-monochromatic-proces
> sing-insights.html which links to
> 
> http://fotografz.smugmug.com/Photography/Jonos-MM-files/23016060_2TzGLp#!i=1
> 851170263&k=swB4gbS
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Mark, no one says film is better. If you look at the referred to images,
> they were quite flat. The author eventually admits that he could have done
> more and indeed he passed the files to other people who did more and the
> images were 100% better.
> 
> 
> 
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Replies: Reply from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] Shocking: MM images do not look like film!)
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Reply from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] Shocking: MM images do not look like film!)
In reply to: Message from john at chiaroscuro.co.nz (John McMaster) ([Leica] Shocking: MM images do not look like film!)