Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/09
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]:) There is a very simple solution for this problem...use Photoshop, by itself. That's what I do. I only use LR for browsing and weeding out the bad ones. In a way for 'proofing'. It's great for that because it's non-destructive. Then for any photos that I need to 'adjust' I switch to Photoshop. Works for me. Jim Laird On Jun 9, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Ken Carney <kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: > Thanks. I've given up for now. I also downloaded PS6 and ACR 7.1, but > the same problem occurs. Everything is fine until I save the tif or psd > file in the same directory with the raw file. The differences between the > (unadjusted in PS) saved image and the raw image range from subtle to > enormous. I guess it is not that big a problem - I can adjust in LR, > edit in PS and then just save the tif file in a different directory. It > is only when I save the PS image in the same directory with the raw file > that either LR or PS is doing something to the image. > > Ken > > On 6/8/2012 8:10 PM, Robert Baron wrote: >> When you click 'edit in PS' from LR you are given a choice of whether to >> send it to PS with or without the adjustments you have made in LR. If you >> haven't made any, the file opened in PS should open as a RAW file w/o any >> adjustments. All things equal it should look the same, so obviously a >> change is being made to it somewhere along the line. >> >> Then when you return it to LR are you returning the original file or a >> file >> with the changes you made in PS? >> >> I know that consistency is reputed to be the hobgoblin of small minds but >> there is something disrupting the consistency of your workflow. Your >> assignment is to figure out what it is. >> >> Maybe you should get into preferences / file handling and preferences >> /external editing and see if there are any clues there. >> >> --Bob >> >> ==On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Ken Carney<kcarney1 at cox.net> wrote: >> >>> Geoff, >>> >>> Of course it is difficult to follow - it was written by a C.P.A. Try >>> reading some of our financial statements. I tried the same thing using >>> LR >>> 3.6 and PS 4 and PS 5.1 - same thing. If I open (edit in) PS and save >>> the >>> tif, viewing the two in LR (raw file and tif) the tif is much lighter, >>> actually blown out. If I choose "develop" in LR for the tif, the >>> brightness setting is much higher than the CR2 I chose to "edit in PS". >>> As I suspected from the beginning, this is obviously a conspiracy to >>> require an upgrade to CS6. Thanks much for your comments. >>> >>> Ken >>> >>> >>> On 6/8/2012 5:13 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>> >>>> Ken, that's difficult to follow! I might be able to shed some light on >>>> some >>>> of it at least. >>>> PS 5.1 uses ACR6.7 which does not support all of the functions of LR4.1. >>>> It >>>> does not understand some possible raw adjustments and ignores them. >>>> Photoshop CS6 uses the same raw engine as LR4.1. The current version is >>>> Adobe Camera Raw 7.1xxx >>>> Possibly there may be some profile changes for your Canon Raw files too? >>>> Canon of course is a major client target and updates for Canon would be >>>> a >>>> high priority for Adobe. I'm sure it doesn't hurt that Mr Knoll is a >>>> Canon >>>> user ;-) >>>> >>>> The working colour space in the raw converter is not the same thing as a >>>> colour space assigned to converted files (such as TIFFs). I think it's >>>> linear anyway, that is needs a big curve applied to become something we >>>> easily relate to. But if you export a version as a TIFF you can choose >>>> to >>>> make that Pro Photo as you did to preserve the maximum information. Keep >>>> in >>>> mind that you can't see all of the information in there on your monitor >>>> nor >>>> in a print. >>>> For most monitors sRGB is more likely with a few high end ones very >>>> close >>>> to all of Adobe RGB which is very largely covered by good inkjet >>>> printers >>>> too. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, 9 June 2012, Ken Carney wrote: >>>> >>>> I have seen a number of references to this problem in the Adobe forum, >>>>> but >>>>> have not seen an answer to it. Hopefully the wisdom of the LUG will >>>>> bail >>>>> me out once more. I can import a raw file (CR2) into LR 4.1, and then >>>>> select edit in PS 5.1. If I save the PS file (as a tif), then in LR >>>>> the >>>>> CR2 and the saved tif files look quite different. Sometimes the tif >>>>> will >>>>> be lighter, sometimes darker. If I make any adjustments in PS, then >>>>> the >>>>> saved tif can look very different from the CR2 file. The odd thing is >>>>> that >>>>> when I look at the file as opened in PS (edit in PS) without any >>>>> adjustments, it looks the same as the CR2 file in LR. So something is >>>>> happening when I save the PS file (if I just open the saved tif in PS, >>>>> sure >>>>> enough it looks just like the saved tif file as seen in LR, i.e., >>>>> different >>>>> from the CR2 file). I have ACR 6.7 which is supposed to be compatible >>>>> with LR 4.1 and both programs use ProPhoto as the color space. Sorry >>>>> for >>>>> the long question, but does anyone know what I am missing? 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