Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Well, Amateur Photographer magazine did a comparitive review of the Leica M9, Fuji X-Pro 1 and the Sony Nex 7 in their May 26th issue, in case someone is interested. Cheers Jayanand Sent from my iPad On 14-Jun-2012, at 1:52 AM, "John McMaster" <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> wrote: > Sean Reid (pay-for site) compared X-100, X-Pro1, M9 and MM with similar > treatment. > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > One camera system can be judged as nosier than anther but that's just how > the image was handled. One can be temped to over sharpen just as one can be > temped to anti noise and sometimes get away with it. > But in this case we're looking at full rez file so we can see easier whats > been done with it. And in this case too much. Was it Fuji that did it not > the photographer? So this was a jpeg? In the interface there was no menu > which said how much sharpening? I bet there was. And I bet it was turned on > way too high. It would need perhaps to be set to "low" or "off". > And sharpen to taste later. > > Its just darned hard to judge a camera systems sharpness and noise because > a > tasteful amount is put into the final image by the photographer. And that > taste can vary. > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> >> That is pretty much how Sean Reid analysed it, Fuji are dropping a lot >> of detail information to reduce noise at high ASA. >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> To me it looks anti noised a bit too much. In other worlds it would >> look better noisier. To me its the analog equivalent of putting tissue >> or dirty saran wrap in front of an enlarging lens. You just don't ever >> want to do that. You want to see the real grain which is there becuae >> out of that grain comes the image. Less grain less information which >> is there; we are just now allowed to see it. >> In digital its not quite the same. We can anti noise the noise not >> grain just a tad to take some of the edgy sandpaper ness off until it >> gets to be too much and we are cut off from the information we should >> be seeing in the image. And that in terms of photography from both the >> craft and art sake: a big no no. >> It's human nature to want to see all the detail that was there in the >> original file rather than to have it smoothed over on us into jelly >> bean sauce. >> Odds are we'd not be viewing the image at one to one anyway. >> >> - - from my iRabs. >> Mark Rabiner >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ >> >> >>> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> >>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:51:03 +0100 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> I have uploaded a 6400iso image at >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gwpics/1X--1075.jpg.html. It is at >>> full resolution. It is a little more noisy than I would normally >>> anticipate but I suspect that this is due to the heavy red lighting >>> chosen by the lighting engineer for this particular gig. All >>> information is in the usual place in the gallery. >>> >>> Gerry >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information