Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/15

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M Monochrom
From: photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:03:35 -0400
References: <017101cd4afc$ba9fa0d0$2fdee270$@earthlink.net> <CC00C7DB.29012%bd@bdcolenphoto.com>

I can't stand the Leica company and the direction I personally believe
they are taking.
That said, if Leica provided me with a regular stable of lenses and
cameras to "test" for them at no cost to me, I'd probably tell the
world whatever PR line Leica wanted me to, no matter how ridiculous. 

"Check out the new M11 camera! It actually doubles as a steam iron for
your shirts and slacks! Self-cleaning baseplate coated with nano-teflon
molecules are GUARANTEED to not stick to your Forzieri shirts!"

Phil Forrest


On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:09:14 -0400
"B. D. Colen" <bd at bdcolenphoto.com> wrote:

> The bottom line is that Erwin probably knows more about optics than
> all of us put together, but given his financial arrangements with
> Leica over the years, there is no way he can or should be trusted as
> an impartial judge of Leica products. This is not to say that he
> isn't as honest as a day in June in the Northern Hemisphere is long;
> it is to say that once one takes money - or product - from a company,
> one should no longer be considered an impartial judge of anything
> having to do with that company.
> 
> On 6/15/12 9:42 AM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >I take a different approach to Erwin's analysis.  I like his
> >scientific approach, I find his reviews static and un-emotional.
> >However I take his results with a grain of salt.
> >
> >If you want to appear to be uncompromising and above reproach, then
> >you must
> >truly be non-paid and non-partisan.  Basically a regular Joe
> >Consumer. And
> >you must never take on any job from the supplier.
> >
> >Erwin does work at times for Leica.  He is paid or receives some
> >form of remunerative compensation from this activity.  This then
> >makes me think his
> >impartiality is questionable at all times.
> >
> >He also has received items for testing/review ahead of the general
> >public. This again makes him part of the Leica Crew.
> >
> >I like his reviews, I read them, I believe in them when technical
> >aspects come to mind, But do I believe he is impartial?  No.
> >
> >Frank Filippone
> >Red735i at earthlink.net
> >
> >
> >
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