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Subject: [Leica] Final Sobol Photos with MM Part II the beginning
From: photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:56:50 -0400
References: <CC00F6FB.1FB6E%mark@rabinergroup.com> <7030D0E9-D2F7-428C-B90D-4F9EDCDF2A3C@frozenlight.eu>

+1  Thank you! 

Phil Forrest


On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:13:05 +0200
Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:

> Well I just googled him and read stuff from a quality Danish paper in
> which his Greenland work is severely criticized.
> 
> just because he has a commercial association with Leica does not mean
> we should admire him.
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> (sent from somewhere)
> 
> 
> On 15/06/2012, at 20.28, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us8egbeZil0
> > 
> > Give this video a minute it evens out:
> > We see here the photographer Jacob Au Sobol standing next to Dr.
> > Andreas Kaufmann at the podium taken with a shaky video camera. Big
> > screen behind them. Both guys in tee shirts and needing shaves.
> > 
> > We learn that the previous video we just all saw of him on the LUG
> > was the: 1. First time Jacob Au Sobol ever used a digital camera
> > 2. First time he ever used a Leica camera.
> > 
> > I'm at the point now where he is reunited with the Monochrom M at
> > the podium as Dr. Andreas Kaufmann hands it too him. I'm not sure
> > but it really seemed like an emotional moment.
> > 
> > There are lots of other videos about this guy, Jacob Au Sobol on
> > you tube. I've been learning a lot watching them.
> > 
> > I think if you Googled and wiki'd and Binged Jacob Au Sobol the
> > only place you're ever going to find anything negative writing
> > about him is on an email list called the Leica Users group.
> > 
> > - - from my iRabs.
> > Mark Rabiner
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> > 
> > 
> >> From: "B. D. Colen" <bd at bdcolenphoto.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:10:48 -0400
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Final Sobol Photos with MM
> >> 
> >> No, unfortunately it did not show you what the camera could do.
> >> You have far less than no idea how what you saw on the screen
> >> relates to what comes out of the camera.
> >> 
> >> On 6/15/12 1:31 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I was annoyed about the MM before preferring that Leica had spent
> >>> that R&D on updating the sensor in full color M9 and getting that
> >>> camera out. Its been three years.
> >>> But this video got me into the idea of working in pure black and
> >>> white again. With my Leica glass. I was inspired by his working
> >>> method and inspired by his end result.
> >>> I showed nothing about the camera?
> >>> It showed what the camera could do.
> >>> It didn't teach you how to load an SD card or change lenses.
> >>> I think the purpose of the video was to sell cameras.
> >>> And I think it'd doing that. If I had the money I would fro sure
> >>> by an M Monochrom and get my Leica glass going again. Possibly in
> >>> the best way possible.
> >>> 
> >>> - - from my iRabs.
> >>> Mark Rabiner
> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> From: Lottermoser George <imagist3 at mac.com>
> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:49:43 -0500
> >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Final Sobol Photos with MM
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Did anybody watch this:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> http://blog.leica-camera.com/photography/m-system/arrivals-and-departure
> >>>>> s-wit
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> h-jacob-aue-sobol-episode-6-the-final-episode/?utm_source=feedburner&utm
> >>>>> _medi
> >>>>> um=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LeicaCamera+%28Leica+Camera+Blog%29
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> What did you think?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Delighted to have been introduced to this photographer / artist
> >>>> Thank you Tina.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Love the unexpected qualities of his photographs
> >>>> (and his love for black and white image making)
> >>>> 
> >>>> The film is not "about the camera."
> >>>> The film is about "Sobol."
> >>>> and
> >>>> intriguing enough (to me) to spend some time with his work.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Leica's saying, "this is an artist's camera."
> >>>> I believe them.
> >>>> Though of course non-artists will also buy them.
> >>>> and some artists will buy them and not like them.
> >>>> and many (color) artists will not buy one.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> George Lottermoser
> >>>> george at imagist.com
> >>>> http://www.imagist.com
> >>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
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