Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/26
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]B.D., John, Howard - I do see the color smearing in the Adobe-processed files, but only clearly visible at 200%. No checkerboard anywhere, though, even at 300%. I do not see color smearing or checkerboard in Silky Pix RAW converted files. Point taken in any case. Guess I'll shoot JPGs for a while myself. Thanks. Regards, Dick On Jun 26, 2012, at 6:37 PM, B. D. Colen wrote: > IF they are true RAW files, then the camera isn't doing anything to them - > they are simply the data captured by the sensor - no sharpening, no in > camera "correction." When they are converted to DNG, they are being > converted to a theoretically lossless compressed format, but, again, are > unaltered. Then the fun begins. Apparently the Adobe conversion is doing > something wrong, because the files end up with a weird pattern - a sort of > checkerboard pattern, with little crosses in the checkerboard squares, and > dots, that I can see very faintly at 66 percent, and painfully clearly at > 100 percent. > Typed with big fingers on tiny keys > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Taylor <r.s.taylor at comcast.net> > Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org > Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:24:29 > To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Using the Fuji X Pro-1 > > Ed - I don't if the X Pro-1 sharpens RAW files in the camera or not. The > out-of-camera RAW files are 16 bits. They're identified as .RAF files. > Silky Pix RAW saves 8 bit TIFs and JPGs from these files. The DNG files > are 16 bits. > > Regards, > > Dick > > > > On Jun 26, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Edward Kowaleski wrote: > >> It suggests that the Fuji conversion is doing some sharpening in the >> processing. Is the processing going on in the camera or in the computer >> after you take the chip out of the camera? Does the Fuji image produce a >> 16 >> Bit Fuji proprietary image (or a TIF) or a PSD file? I'd be curious. >> >> Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lug-bounces+ekowaleski=twmi.rr.com at leica-users.org >> [mailto:lug-bounces+ekowaleski=twmi.rr.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf >> Of >> Richard Taylor >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:36 AM >> To: Leica Users Group >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Using the Fuji X Pro-1 >> >> Ed - I can't make a comparison to the Nikon RAW processor since I've never >> used it. The Fuji RAW processor--at least on the few images I've tried >> it >> with--seems to produce slightly sharper images but they have noticeable >> splotchy color noise that I do not see using the Adobe RAW converter. The >> splotchy noise isn't at all bad, but it is noticeable and I'd rather not >> see >> it at all. >> >> I convert all my RAW files to DNG on import just as you do. >> >> The camera will be with me when I go to Maine and by then we should know >> whether or not it's going to be a useful platform for my neglected Leica >> lenses. >> >> Regards, >> >> Dick >> >> >> >> On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Edward Kowaleski wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the update. I'm looking forward to handling it when I see >>> you in Bar Harbor. >>> >>> Do you have an opinion of the quality of images generated from DNG >>> files that have been converted from proprietary Fuji or Nikon RAW >>> files? I know you find the conversion a little (or lots) longer but >>> is there any qualitative difference? >>> >>> I have been converting all my Panasonic or Nikon RAW images to DNG as >>> soon as I take the chip out of the camera. It makes subsequent >>> processing and storage simpler (to me) and keeps all my RAW files on >>> one platform which I feel confident that Adobe will maintain similar to >> their Acrobat PDF files. >>> I'd appreciate your thoughts on this. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: lug-bounces+ekowaleski=twmi.rr.com at leica-users.org >>> [mailto:lug-bounces+ekowaleski=twmi.rr.com at leica-users.org] On Behalf >>> Of Richard Taylor >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:29 AM >>> To: Leica Users Group >>> Subject: [Leica] Using the Fuji X Pro-1 >>> >>> I've had my X Pro-1 for two weeks now and in thought you might be >>> interested in my impressions of the camera. There are many images on >>> line testifying to its excellent image quality at low and high ISO so >>> I'm not going to add more--at least for now. What they show is all >>> true, though, in my experience. >>> >>> If you've been following the discussions about the camera, not all of >>> this >>> will be new to you. >>> >>> In a nutshell, it is the most M-like digital camera I've yet run across. >>> The aperture dial is on the lens where it belongs, ditto for the >>> shutter speed dial and exposure correction dials on the body, and you >>> can set the Fn button to bring up ISO settings, so everything you're >>> likely to need in routine shooting is right out in the open. The body >>> is just a bit smaller than the M9 and weighs about half as much. >>> >>> With the Fujinon lenses, focus is just like the Leica, except it's >>> automatic. Aim the focus rectangle in the OVF at the point you want >>> in focus, half press the shutter, watch the frame lines jump into >>> place, reframe if necessary and shoot. Perfect! When you're close in >>> you've got to use the lower right focus rectangle to correct for >>> parallax, but otherwise the procedure is the same. Focus speed is >>> more than fast enough, but nowhere near as fast as my Panasonic GX-1. >>> >>> If you place the focus rectangle correctly, the focus will be spot-on. >>> >>> OTH, the camera, despite the inclusion of a "Multi-Spot" mode, really >>> doesn't have one as far as I've can tell. If you put it in >>> Multi-Spot, it will choose the single most contrasty spot in the frame >>> to focus on, whether it's your subject's eye or a lightbulb in the far >>> corner of the frame. I don't see why this method would work under any >>> circumstances, but maybe one of you can enlighten me. >>> >>> The only way you can shoot from the hip is to lock focus on an >>> appropriate middle distance and stop way down, again just as you would do >> with an M. >>> >>> I can see the frames lines and data in the OVF with my regular glasses >>> on. >>> If I'm wearing polarizing sunglasses and holding the camera horizontally, >>> though, I can't either in the OVF or anything at all in the EVF. With >> the >>> LCD on the camera back it's the other way around. It's readable with >>> the camera horizontal, but not vertical. >>> >>> Opinions can differ on this of course, but for my purposes LR 4 does a >>> better job of processing the RAW files than the Fuji RAW converter does. >>> There is less blotchy chroma noise and sharpness is almost as good. >>> OTH, converting the RAW files to DNG and importing them into LR seems >>> to take forever, maybe 3-4 times as long as it takes to import files from >> my D300. >>> >>> The only thing about the camera that drives me nuts is the power switch. >>> Whoever designed it needs to go in for some remedial work on detent >> design. >>> Even the slightest brush of the hand or the side of a camera bags turns >> the >>> camera on. Bad, bad, bad. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Dick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information