Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/26

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Subject: [Leica] TMZ?
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:58:00 +0930
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The problem is always it depends on who you show.  Some people don't
see anything, some people see everything, and there is a spectrum
inbetween.  of all those kinds, some care, some don't.  On average,
you should make your images look how _you_ want them to.

Marty


On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:53 PM, R. Clayton McKee <rcmphoto at yahoo.com> 
wrote:
> Very true from a technical view... but I'm thinking that the average (ie, 
> human) viewer isn't going to be that concerned.? If you're working on 
> noise reduction algorithms that's one thing... but looking at it on the 
> wall or the screen strictly as an image is something else, and I don't 
> know that it makes that much difference.
>
>
> (That's an off-the-cuff SWAG with no backup except that I've had comments 
> from total layfolk who don't seem to be aware that there is any 
> difference. If you've got studies or evidence one way or another PLEASE 
> show it.? I'd like to know.)
>
>
> R. Clayton McKee
> PhotoJournalist
> from somewhere just south of somewhere else...
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Marty Deveney <benedenia at gmail.com>
>>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:07 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] TMZ?
>>
>>> Is 'noise' so much different than 'grain'?
>>
>>Yes, totally.? Grain is random but distributed predictably across
>>different tones, and varies at tonal boundaries due to a range of
>>physico-chemical effects.
>>
>>Noise varies by colour of the scene (especially in low light), is more
>>predictably distributed (this is why noise reduction works very well
>>on digital images but not so well on scanned film), and does not vary
>>at tonal boundaries unless those boundaries also have sharp colour
>>difference.
>>
>>Marty
>>
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