Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Nope. Can't be. Even if Rockwell says it is. The Worst Lens Ever Made (by a name brand manufacturer) In The History of The Modern Universe was, without a doubt, with NO room for argument: The 43-86 Nikkor zoom. To this day I remain convinced that Nikon contracted with the Coca Cola company for returned glass bottle bottoms to use as front elements. This lens was such a dog that it howled when it was mounted. If there was a single lens that gave the concept of zooms a bad name, this was it. In a word, this lens really, really, really sucked. On the other hand, if they had branded it the Nikon Gaussian Blur Zoom, it would have been decades ahead of it's time. ;-) Typed with big fingers on tiny keys -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> Sender: lug-bounces+bd=bdcolenphoto.com at leica-users.org Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 13:55:12 To: Leica Users Group<lug at leica-users.org> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona News - MARK & DANIEL Rockwell has it all laid out here and he certainly agrees with you on previous versions. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24120vr.htm He says its the worse lens ever made in the history of the modern universe. That's the Nikon 24-120mm VR AF-S NIKKOR f/3.5-5.6 I see no discussion on good versions. And I though he was my source on that. Thom and Moose agree with him with a tad less venomousness. But that's the earlier versions: Rockwell says: The new Nikon 24-120mm f/4 VR is a great lens. It is worlds sharper than its predecessor, the fuzzy 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6 AF-S VR (2003-2010). Both these 24-120 AF-S VR lenses are much better ergonomically than their predecessor, the clunky 24-120mm AF-D (1996-2002). All three Nikon 24-120mm lenses are loaded with distortion. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/24-120mm.htm So lets not put all our 24-120's in the same pot. The VR is supposed to work great. I would kill for this lenes.... Slay dragons. What you couldn't shoot with this lens and a D800 is not worth mentioning. But again it's twice the weight and bulk than I like to have one me every day. It's ok for a specific shoot when I'm going somewhere for a specific shot. - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 21:04:43 +1200 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in Barcelona > News - MARK & DANIEL > > Really? The f3.5-5.6 VR was what I had and didn't change from 2003-2010. > The > current f4.0 also has variable quality from what I have read........ > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > Every year that lens was re designed. Its real hard to know you're shooting > with the same 24 to 120. Right now the version out is supposed to be quite > good and I'd love to be shooting with it. Its just a tad big and heavy. > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > >> >> Amazing, I had that lens in D100/300 and nothing like that came out, >> lens variation on improving on FF? >> >> john >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Mark : mine is the cheapest lens you can get 24-120 first version 3.5 >> shot fully open - it is the lens no-one wants to buy from Ebay - >> available for less than $100 :-) >> >> Now, I would like to get a copy of the snap SHE took of me - or is it us? >> unsure though as she had a 50mm on. >> >> I may have shot with one hand - don't remember, as I was lugging my >> suitcase along - Daniel might remember this, it all went too quickly. >> >> Best >> Philippe >> >> Le 8 juil. 12 ? 09:16, Mark Rabiner a ?crit : >> >>> Was this shot with the 24 1.4 Nikkor? >>> Sure is sharp as a sun of a gun. And at a 30th. >>> But looks stopped down one or two. >>> >>> - - from my iRabs. >>> Mark Rabiner >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:58:46 -0500 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>> >>>> On my screen, there appears to be a tab at approx the 11 o'clock >>>> position in your photo. She is apparently holding on to the >>>> focusing tab, so I would suspect that the filter is a polarizer. >>>> >>>> Jim Nichols >>>> Tullahoma, TN USA >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "philippe.amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 2:12 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>> inBarcelona News - MARK & DANIEL >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for your support Daniel, I hope you had a nice return trip >>>>> back home. >>>>> I was really happy to meet you and will remember last couple of >>>>> beers on the square as a privilged moment in my life :-) To be >>>>> renewed where and when we can. >>>>> >>>>> Mark, have a look here, click large. >>>>> I DK about the filter, sorry, we didn't even talk to her apart from >>>>> asking permission... could be qualified as a missed opportunity >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Phileica/LUG+in+Barcelona/La+Boque >>>>> r >>>>> ia-M9-Sen >>>>> iorita-Sushi-8874.jpg.html >>>>> or >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/d4bwvgj >>>>> >>>>> Amiti?s >>>>> Philippe, editing today's celebrations snaps >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 20:48, Daniel Ridings a ?crit : >>>>> >>>>>> It was an M9. Pity she covered up the model number. I too saw the >>>>>> filter. Don't really know what it was. >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Mark Rabiner >>>>>> <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Are you sure it wasn't an M8 I thought I saw a dark grey flat >>>>>>> filter on the lens? Maybe it was a polarizer? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - - from my iRabs. >>>>>>> Mark Rabiner >>>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 20:19:40 +0200 >>>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering >>>>>>>> in Barcelona News - STEVE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> no need to ask my friend, they're part of the global emotional >>>>>>>> assets of the LUG community :-) Just if you could rename the >>>>>>>> first one as: "The other room 31", details will surface in the >>>>>>>> course of time... and the story told again and again over the >>>>>>>> years ;-) I think you know the guys' >>>>>>>> names :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Other than that, the lady was obviously an M9 user, we actually >>>>>>>> caught her in the act of shooting, but will remain unknown >>>>>>>> forever, unless ... >>>>>>>> I had asked her permission though, with Daniel as a witness. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wish you'd been able to make it too, really. >>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amiti?s de Metz >>>>>>>> Philippe >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Le 7 juil. 12 ? 16:51, Steve Barbour a ?crit : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the pictures, Philippe, they are packed with life >>>>>>>>>> and wit, and one can easily listen to the laughter! I think >>>>>>>>>> I'll make it to Barcelona next time, this place is a must for >>>>>>>>>> Luggers! >>>>>>>>>> Jean- >>>>>>>>>> Michel >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 00:12:59 +0200 >>>>>>>>>>> From: philippe.amard at sfr.fr >>>>>>>>>>> To: lug at leica-users.org; leicareflex at freelists.org >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] IMG: First Intercontinental LUG gathering in >>>>>>>>>>> Barcelona News >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm back from Barcelona tonight, where Ted, Lluis, Geoff & >>>>>>>>>>> lovely family, Daniel and Nathan still are, and I have >>>>>>>>>>> selected three takes from today that may give you an idea of >>>>>>>>>>> the marvellous atmosphere there. This gathering was pure >>>>>>>>>>> magic for me. >>>>>>>>>>> Special >>>>>>>>>>> thanks to Brian without whom this would never have happened. >>>>>>>>>>> No stacks from me though be patient they will follow from >>>>>>>>>>> "the crew", but you may nonetheless enjoy these in the meantime. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My first encounter with Doctor Ted, magic! >>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/cleubbr >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ted as a Christmas Tree >>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/7asd66o >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And Daniel and I had been very lucky earlier this morning >>>>>>>>>>> when we encountered the best of both worlds on the market. >>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ct3xpeb >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Xtra special thanks to the crew too. >>>>>>>>>>> Renewed hugs to "the Hoppies". >>>>>>>>>>> Bien cordialement de Mutz >>>>>>>>>>> Philippe, a little knackered after a short night and finding >>>>>>>>>>> his car wouldn't start at the airport tonight, but German >>>>>>>>>>> tows work wonders ... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would love to use these wonderful images Philippe, in our >>>>>>>>> Leica Users Gallery, if I may...please... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve >>>>>>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. 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