Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/25

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Subject: [Leica] A new M from Canon
From: digiratidoc at gmail.com (James Laird)
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 04:04:43 -0500
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What we need though is an APS-C camera with built-in IS for using our
legacy lenses. It's damned hard to focus them at arms length much less
hold the camera steady. Sure we could use a tripod, but that defeats
the purpose, don't it? ;) And I don't know about you but I can tell
the difference between 4/3 shots and APS-C shots, mostly with the
XPro-1 sensor without the optical low-pass filter. The images a
cleaner with less noise and SHARP at least with the Fuji lenses. What
I crave for is an XPro-1 with sensor IS, so I can use a small format
carry everywhere camera with great lenses and the ability to use
legacy glass when I want it to. Is that too much to ask?

Jim Laird

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Richard Man
<richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote:
> By every single review I read, the E-M5 sensor is as competitive with any
> APS-C sensor in most aspects - dynamic range, high ISO etc. Don't let that
> 4/3 small size sensor fool you if the camera suits you otherwise.
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:20 AM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> What I don't understand is why Sony brings out a SLEW of DSLRs, AP-C
>> and full frame with what they call 'steady-shot' IS built into the
>> bodies. Works quite well on the one's I've tried out. Then they bring
>> out the NEX series, cameras virtually begging for legacy lenses...no
>> IS. Same with Canon now. Of course Canikon has always been about lens
>> IS. But when you're holding a tiny camera like the NEX or the new
>> Canon M out at arms length to focus you NEED IS just to hold it
>> steady. Sony's announced some IS zooms for the NEX along with Canon
>> with their new M but what we need is a system with good primes and/or
>> the ability to use legacy lenses with built-in IS like the OLY M4/3
>> cameras but in the APS-C format. I really think if the Fuji X-Pro1
>> missed the boat...should have had sensor IS and it might have
>> conquered the digital world. I'd own one if it had sensor IS ala OLY
>> and SONY. Beautiful camera and you can use legacy lenses. Sometimes
>> you just need IS to get the shot.
>>
>> Jim Laird
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> 
>> wrote:
>> > Although I bit on a mirrorless camera myself, I perfectly understand why
>> > several bloggers have suggested that it is less expensive to buy a lower
>> end
>> > DSLR, that will produce better IQ. If I were not invested in legacy
>> lenses,
>> > I would seriously consider one of the less expensive Sonys.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Adam Bridge
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:34 PM
>> > To: Leica Users Group
>> > Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
>> >
>> > I'm completely with you, Alan.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to imagine using this camera with one of the great-vast EOS
>> > lenses attached and held at arms length. REALLY?
>> >
>> > The NEX-7 I use has virtually the same form-factor. NOT the same 
>> > high-ISO
>> > performance I'll grant you that, but the only time I find myself using 
>> > it
>> > without the EVF is when it's on a tripod.
>> >
>> > I just don't see what's to be all that excited about this camera. It's
>> about
>> > 8 months late to market, at least, and it gives us many features that 
>> > the
>> > lowly Rebel has.
>> >
>> > Probably I'm completely wrong and it'll be a huge hit. But not for me.
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> > On 2012 Jul 23, at 6:50 PM, Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not interested - no viewfinder.
>> >>
>> >> Alan
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] A new M from Canon)
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