Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/09/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Hi Doc., 2 things. The lenses you use have good boke, whether you chose them because of that or not... Whether backgrounds are distraction depends both on the background and the framing. You are a master at framing. You have dealt with the problem at source whether conciously or not. FD >________________________________ > From: "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca> >To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012, 10:41 >Subject: Re: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH????? > >May I put this into a test of shooting a real documentary for one of my >medical books.Those of you who do not have the pleasure of a copy of any of >the three might not have one word to say. > >Here's how I work. > >I'm in scrubs, 3 M cameras around my neck, a couple of motor drive SLR 's >hanging off shoulders with different lenses. And away I go with not one iota >of a thought other than making sure everything is set for proper exposure! > >Now it is my eye that is canning the scene watching - looking for the >twinkle in? an eye just over the mask, the helter skelter of hands holding >instruments, the glint in an eye and doing all this without any techie >thoughts or concerns about bokeh or many other things that always seem to >put the fear of God into others their picture taking. > >Regardless of all the banter about many things.... Bokeh for example, never >ever enters my mind nor nary an incline of thought as I'm concentrating on >the many subjects. > >Just look through any of the book picture pages and point out to me where >the bokeh is a distracting spoiling element in the intensity of the photo >moment. For the life of me I cannot imagine it ever entering thought process >as a new heart valve is being inserted into the heart of the patient. > >Please by my guest and tell me the plate number of the photo page and point >out the bokeh spoiled photo.... thank you. > >cheers, >Dr. ted :-) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "FRANK DERNIE" <frank.dernie at btinternet.com> >To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org> >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:30 AM >Subject: Re: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH????? > > >> The thing is, Mark, you are a night owl. You go out taking pictures in low >> light, and prefer to stop down a bit for DoF. >> Not everybody does this. >> I am in bed early and up at dawn. I mainly take pictures in good light, >> and if it is less good I use my lenses wide open. >> I don't care all that much about high iso performance, though I know you >> do. Many are like me, I imagine, though we don't bang on about it thrice >> daily. >> If you shoot frequently wide open it is likely that between 50% and 95% of >> the frame is OOF so, for people who do this boke is indeed important for >> the overall look of the print, though of course it is the in-focus bit >> that is important (usually). >> IME the nature of the background makes more difference to the boke than >> the lens itself. Sun through a leafy bush or tree being the most tricky >> IME. I do not keep a lens if I don't like the boke, personally, so it is >> not an issue for me. >> All my Leica lenses have good or excellent boke. Most of my Canon lenses >> do too. A few Nikon lenses have been disappointing and several of the >> Voigtlander rangefinder lenses too. The 50mm f1.5 was very disappointing >> in this regard. >> My habits are very different from yours, so my requirements are also very >> different. >> cheers, >> Frank Dernie >> >> >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012, 8:05 >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH????? >>> >>>In agreement where Ted is coming from the idea of good or bad bokeh being >>>a >>>deal breaker and really the main focus of why to buy one lens over another >>>is so obsurd it makes my teeth hurt. Far more important would seem to be >>>to >>>focus ones attention on what's in focus. >>>Vibration reduction is a huge thing. Huge. >>>A paradigm shifter big time. >>>If its conceivably possible that it would effect the out of focus areas of >>>the image my big thought on the issue is: who the hell cares? You're hand >>>holding a 30omm lens at a 50th of a second I say that's a reason to >>>celebrate. And a reason to go out and make images like you never could >>>before. Or stay in and do it in your living room... turn the lights down >>>low. Not have to use a wide. Do a portrait session with a 90mm and >>>candlelight. >>> >>>Mark William Rabiner >>>Photography >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >