[Leica] D800E pixel-peepers

[john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)]

Indeed, silly expensive but my new DSLR lies effectively unused....

john

-----Original Message-----

Yes, I find that very sad.  Leica evidently knows where their market is.  I 
would still not want any other camera for what I do, though.

Tina

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
verizon.net>wrote:

> Magnum guys got paid/ or were loaned free of charge to carry the
> cameras.....   it was/is an advertising gimmick.
>
> The market and technology of cameras has moved.  With a N or C camera, 
> anyone can point and shoot as well as those in the old days.  If you 
> are a working pro, the competition is the 15 year old down the street.. ...
>
> Leicas ARE expensive,  Yes, they are great optics, but not everyone 
> needs that.  Rich guys can afford it....whether they need it or not.
>
> Looking at it a bit differently, the Leica ads are no longer about 
> optics, but about lifestyle..... and that should tell you something 
> about what their target market really is......  it is not about 
> working photographers.
>
> Frank Filippone
> Red735i at verizon.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+red735i=verizon.net at leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mark Rabiner
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 11:08 AM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>
> I don't see it as a stereotype thing I see it as an oddball low cut to 
> Leica camera. Called "Dentist" cameras or otherwise "rich guy" cameras 
> it was most appreciated by top pros as in the Magnum people and some 
> people who Saw that work and wanted to emulated it.
> Or the people who appreciated it in hand and knew the advantages of a 
> rangefinder and premium glass.
> Or Care.
> The people who don't care are the ones who do quick write offs on it.
> Calling it a rich guy camera.
> Its a premium product. Cost a lot of money.
> Obviously your priorities would have to be there if you were going to 
> get one. If you were in their target market.
> You have to  "get it" to get it.
>
> In the past I've had to do extreme financial scrambling to get an M6 
> body or lens. And as it paid off for me I did more later.
> Its not in the category of a causal buy like a medium range nikon lens 
> or mid range body even.
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
> > From: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:07:55 -0700
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
> >
> > It is not a stereotype, it is a market segment......   A desirable market
> > segment....
> >
> > Frank Filippone
> > Red735i at verizon.net
> >
> >
> > Frank Filippone wrote:
> >
> >> Be happy that Leica has produced a new M ... even if they forgot 
> >> how to count beyond 9.  But let's not get crazy....
> >>
> >> As  I have said in the past...   made for Doctors, Lawyers, and Indian
> >> Chiefs.....
> >
> > I have an intense distaste for stereotypes.
> >
> > Doug Herr
> > Birdman of Sacramento
> >
> >