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Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:07 -0400

The old definition of a photo assistant is something who knows how to load a
Hasselblad back.
The new one is one who can teach the photographer they work for how to do it
right.
Much of this photography thing is self evident and you just figure it out.
But much of it its really good to have a face to face  real world peer group
to show you stuff. A workshop; a class.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:27:58 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
> 
> Ha ha, I never did that one, but on the Hassy, I did load the film backward
> once or twice - so no film images!
> 
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> rabinergroup.com>wrote:
> 
>> I loaded my Hasselblad backs wrong the first few years I used them. I
>> didn't
>> put them under the tab but let the film just rest over the tab. So I'd got
>> the left edge soft and felt like I had to shoot everything way stopped
>> down.
>> I finally learned my lesson from an assistant. Should have gotten the 
>> Ernst
>> Wildi book straight on.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:30:49 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
>>> 
>>> First the caveat, these are "high" resolution scan from the Epson 3200,
>> not
>>> my usual Nikon LS-9000, but trust me on this, the results don't look that
>>> different. I'm having trouble getting the LS-9000 to scan the two halves
>>> correctly sfor stitching so Epson it is.
>>> 
>>> The camera was set as level and neutral as I could, and then I used some
>>> front rise to take less of the road, and more of the subjects.
>>> 
>>> Second, something terribly wrong with my techniques, as the left edges
>> from
>>> all 3 lens are markedly softer than the right. I have made sure that the
>>> negs are as flat as possible on the scanner holder, and this is visible
>> on
>>> the negs also. This probably mean I did something wrong somewhere. I
>>> noticed that the SH 617 has front swing and the lensboard was ever so
>>> slightly might not have been parallel (but the amount is very minor), and
>>> it may very well be that the film plate was not set parallel enough. So
>>> this is probably a user error.
>>> 
>>> Third, even at the best sharpest areas (on the right), things don't "pop
>>> out sharp," unlike for example, the negs from the XPan.
>>> 
>>> I am having a dreadful feeling that someone can make this setup sing, but
>>> that someone may just not be me :-(
>>> 
>>> I applied 20% sharpening with LR4.2, with the radius and detail set up
>>> their defau
>>> 150mm Fuji @F32
>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-8.jpg
>>> 
>>> 210mm Symmar-S @F32
>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-9.jpg
>>> 
>>> 90mm Fuji SWD @F32
>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-10.jpg
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> 
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