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Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:18:46 -0700
References: <CCA5D087.24FCA%mark@rabinergroup.com> <CCA5E960.24FE9%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I do, As I said in the "Mr. Photography Man" thread:

Welll..... just so it happens that my wife saw me earlier doing the tests
out in the driveway, and she thought I look "so cute" that she took a few
photos:

http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121017-_A173306.jpg

http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121017-_A173312.jpg


... 6x loupe and a cable release

It has to be a user error somewhere...


On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> By the way you have a loupe and a darkcloth?
>
> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
> > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:28:07 -0400
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
> >
> > The old definition of a photo assistant is something who knows how to
> load a
> > Hasselblad back.
> > The new one is one who can teach the photographer they work for how to
> do it
> > right.
> > Much of this photography thing is self evident and you just figure it
> out.
> > But much of it its really good to have a face to face  real world peer
> group
> > to show you stuff. A workshop; a class.
> >
> > Mark William Rabiner
> > Photography
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >
> >
> >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:27:58 -0700
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
> >>
> >> Ha ha, I never did that one, but on the Hassy, I did load the film
> backward
> >> once or twice - so no film images!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> I loaded my Hasselblad backs wrong the first few years I used them. I
> >>> didn't
> >>> put them under the tab but let the film just rest over the tab. So I'd
> got
> >>> the left edge soft and felt like I had to shoot everything way stopped
> >>> down.
> >>> I finally learned my lesson from an assistant. Should have gotten the
> Ernst
> >>> Wildi book straight on.
> >>>
> >>> Mark William Rabiner
> >>> Photography
> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:30:49 -0700
> >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Subject: [Leica] THE 617 tests, something is very wrong here
> >>>>
> >>>> First the caveat, these are "high" resolution scan from the Epson
> 3200,
> >>> not
> >>>> my usual Nikon LS-9000, but trust me on this, the results don't look
> that
> >>>> different. I'm having trouble getting the LS-9000 to scan the two
> halves
> >>>> correctly sfor stitching so Epson it is.
> >>>>
> >>>> The camera was set as level and neutral as I could, and then I used
> some
> >>>> front rise to take less of the road, and more of the subjects.
> >>>>
> >>>> Second, something terribly wrong with my techniques, as the left edges
> >>> from
> >>>> all 3 lens are markedly softer than the right. I have made sure that
> the
> >>>> negs are as flat as possible on the scanner holder, and this is
> visible
> >>> on
> >>>> the negs also. This probably mean I did something wrong somewhere. I
> >>>> noticed that the SH 617 has front swing and the lensboard was ever so
> >>>> slightly might not have been parallel (but the amount is very minor),
> and
> >>>> it may very well be that the film plate was not set parallel enough.
> So
> >>>> this is probably a user error.
> >>>>
> >>>> Third, even at the best sharpest areas (on the right), things don't
> "pop
> >>>> out sharp," unlike for example, the negs from the XPan.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am having a dreadful feeling that someone can make this setup sing,
> but
> >>>> that someone may just not be me :-(
> >>>>
> >>>> I applied 20% sharpening with LR4.2, with the radius and detail set up
> >>>> their defau
> >>>> 150mm Fuji @F32
> >>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-8.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> 210mm Symmar-S @F32
> >>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-9.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> 90mm Fuji SWD @F32
> >>>> http://richardmanphoto.com/PICS/20121018-Scanned-10.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> >>
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-- 
// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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