Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/12/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]wonderful set ric On Dec 10, 2012, at 12:39 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com> wrote: > Philippe, > No offense at all - just trying to express that there are no rules, no good > or bad, it is just about how each one visualizes. I even take a 180mm or a > 70-200mm out on the street when I know there will be crowds - just to get > the background out of focus much easier. Lenses are just tools... > Cheers > Jayanand > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 10:20 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at > sfr.fr>wrote: > >> Hi Jayanand, >> >> thanks for the honest response. >> >> T be honest in return, I checked my intuition thanks to the exif - I often >> do after viewing large - sometimes I am wrong but I am willing to learn >> :-) >> My last blatant mistake was Steve's BW photo with a character walking up a >> path. The DoF was so shallow at that distance that I thought it must be a >> crop of a nocti shot - it wasn't - longer lens at 1.4 he told me off-list >> - >> but I learnt that Steve had that lens and as it fits my camera, it is now >> on my wish list too, next to your 24-85 :-) >> >> I understand your point about perspective, no fear :-) >> However, does perspective matter when the subject is fine? >> The general geometry and balance of the image does, I agree. >> But distortion, levelling, etc HCB didn't care about from what I see. >> It is not one of my main concern for street photography. >> >> And of course hunting in a pack doesn't help, except when the fellow >> photogs act as distractors, decoys, or preys ;-). >> >> I didn't mean to offend you at all, but I sense a possibility for you that >> you haven't explored yet, awkwardly expressed I must admit, my apologies. >> >> Thanks again for the beautiful photos you share with us. >> >> Amiti?s >> Philippe >> >> >> Le 10 d?c. 12 ? 17:37, Jayanand Govindaraj a ?crit : >> >> Philippe, >>> Thanks for looking. I have no problem in getting close, but I feel I see, >>> frame and compose best with a moderate telephoto lens on the street, >>> though >>> I sally forth with a 16-35 often enough - but it gets a little heavy at >>> times on the D800E. Another reason to use a moderate telephoto is that >>> being a little further away, you do not have to bend as much to get the >>> perspective right. Most of these photographs are within 10 feet of the >>> subjects, and yes, in a lot of cases they know there are people with >>> cameras around - it is difficult to ignore 15-20 people tripping around >>> taking photographs. (-: >>> >>> I really think this theory about only using wide lenses on the streets >>> requires debate. There are no rules but the ones we keep entrenched in >>> our >>> heads you know, so wide and long are all related to how we visualize! >>> Would >>> you tell HCB that 50mm is too long, and he should have used a 28 or 35? >>> If >>> I had scrubbed the EXIF data, and not mentioned my lens, would you have >>> known? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Jayanand >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr >>>> wrote: >>> >>> Such a superb series once more Jayanand, and the plastic lens really >>>> delivers :-) >>>> Which makes me sigh after I missed one (AFD-IF) on the bay at the >>>> weekend >>>> ... >>>> and reinforces my determination to get one :-) >>>> >>>> One of the security guards had spotted you, >>>> so even if you're still a bit shy and are now using the longer end, >>>> perhaps you could try to picture yourself as "the invisible Lluis of >>>> India" and get wider and closer more often? >>>> The same applies to some other shots, 85mm is already long in street >>>> photography, but you know this I presume. >>>> >>>> However, I really love the atmosphere you managed to convey in the >>>> series. >>>> >>>> Keep them coming :-) >>>> >>>> Amiti?s >>>> Philippe >>>> >>>> Le 10 d?c. 12 ? 15:40, Jayanand Govindaraj a ?crit : >>>> >>>> I had gone on a photo walk to T.Nagar in Chennai on Sunday morning, a >>>> >>>>> residential and shopping area famous for silks and jewellery, arranged >>>>> by >>>>> the Photographic Society of Madras (the second oldest camera club in >>>>> the >>>>> world, started in 1857). Here are some photographs from the outing. All >>>>> photographs with the Nikon D800E and the old plastic AFS 24-85 f3.5-4.5 >>>>> lens (NOT the recently released VR version): >>>>> >>>>> Don't Be Shy!: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_006.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_006.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_006.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Flower Seller: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_009.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_009.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_009.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Man and Dog: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_032.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_032.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_032.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Security Guards: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_039.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_039.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_039.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Shopkeeper: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_047.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_047.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_047.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Banana Leaves: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_048.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_048.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_048.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vegetable Shop: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_051.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_051.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_051.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fresh Coffee: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_053.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_053.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_053.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rag-picker: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_104.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_104.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_104.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Wall: >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.****org/v/jayanand/album254/** >>>>> PSMTNagar_20121209_110.jpg.****html<http://gallery.leica-** >>>>> users.org/v/jayanand/album254/**PSMTNagar_20121209_110.jpg.**html<http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/PSMTNagar_20121209_110.jpg.html> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please see LARGE >>>>> >>>>> Comments and criticism, as ever, welcome. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Jayanand >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________****_________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See >>>>> http://leica-users.org/****mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug> >>>>> <http://**leica-users.org/mailman/**listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>>for >>>>> more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ______________________________****_________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See >>>> http://leica-users.org/****mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug> >>>> <http://**leica-users.org/mailman/**listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>>for >>>> more information >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See >>> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>for >>> more information >>> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See >> http://leica-users.org/**mailman/listinfo/lug<http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug>for >> more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information