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Subject: [Leica] a "pro-hobbyist" evaluates an M9 . . . ICK
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert Adler)
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:14:22 -0800
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For about $17,000, you can have an Alpa and 22MP (full frame) back and 70mm
Rodenstock lens with 5deg of tilt. It would weigh about 6.5lbs with
batteries. The camera would allow for back shift (horizontal) giving you
coverage of a 37mm lens in 35mm format.

M9 approx. 6k
35 'lux approx 4k
Another 'lux lens approx 4k
Weight maybe 3-4lbs with batteries.

For those who don't hike horse-killing trails (where every gram counts),
but go on 5-10 mile hikes, it's pretty darn light, sharp as a tack, and 3
shots for stitching at 22MP each, using 9micron pixel sights. Price wise
about the same as an M9 with 3 lenses (or less).

The hard part is finding a Leaf or Phase 22MP back that someone wants to
part with!

No street shooter but a heck of a landscaper's kit...
Best,
Bob

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Paul Roark <roark.paul at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I schlepped my hasselblad and a couple of lenses around Colorado once,
> and
> > it wasn't a problem. ...
>
> The Rollei SL66 is built like a tank; the tilt mechanism is probably
> part of what adds weight over the Hasselblad.  So, when I went to a
> TLR and could have an entire outfit, tripod included, that weighed in
> at 5 lb., that made a believer out of me in terms of what I wanted to
> carry and what image quality I could get from such an outfit.  The
> Bronica RF 645 took over from the Rollei TLR because of the wide angle
> and ability to hold Tech Pan flat.  (My stash of frozen Tech Pan 120
> is going to go on eBay soon.)  The Canon 5D2 convinced me that full
> frame digital could do what I needed, but the Canon outfit was too
> heavy, and their wide angles really are not top notch (the 24 Tilt
> Shift is special, however).  The M9 simply did a better job for less
> weight.
>
> As an aside, let me describe Sheppard Pass, the last trip for the full
> SL66 outfit.  It starts in Owens Valley at 5000 ft.  On the way up to
> the 12000 foot pass, there was a dead horse on the trail when I did
> the trip.  On the other side, at the Muir Trail, the Sheppard Pass
> trail is marked with the skull of a horse.  It is literally a killer.
>
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>
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-- 
Bob Adler


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