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Subject: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
From: sonc.hegr at gmail.com (Sonny Carter)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 18:10:00 -0600
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Jim,

I cannot remember when I had a contact failure, and I ALWAYS use card
readers.

The biggest failure point in SD cards  seems to be the glue used  to hold
the sandwich together.  I've had several come apart over the years.  Very
weird.

SonC

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
>
> I recognize that there are legitimate reasons for removing the card from
> the camera, to transfer firmware updates, etc.  What I can't justify is
> constantly moving the card from the camera to a card reader, and back
> again. To my eyes, the most delicate connections in the digital process are
> those pin connections on the memory cards.  Once the card is functioning
> properly in my camera, I feel it should stay there.
>
> I suppose that, for you and Tina and a few others, multiple cards may be
> needed on a given day.  That is an entirely different case.
>
> I'm sorry to hear that Leica has given up the camera to computer
> connection. But, I don't ever expect to purchase an M, anyway.
>
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at 
> gmail.com
> >
>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
>
>
>  Not quite a cult, Jim ;-). Just suggested simplest baseline to avoid
>> possible errors/complications with some scenarios.
>> There are skeins of threads in the dedicated forums asking for help with
>> file transfers/formatting/usb connection to camera etc  ;-)
>>
>> In M digital cameras at least, formatting a card in-camera that has been
>> used previously in another camera preserves/restores the folder structure
>> and file numbering sequence. Custom file naming/numbering can be affected
>> for example and the creation of second parent folder can mean that new
>> files appear to be absent when in fact they are just not in the expected
>> default location.
>>
>> One specialised scenario is the uploading of new firmware via card too
>>
>>
>>
>> Ask me how I know that delete in camera really means delete and defies the
>> Sandisk provided recovery tools too ;-)
>>
>> Worth noting that Leica Camera has deleted the in-built port from the soon
>> to arrive M.
>>
>> *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
>> stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
>>
>> Cheers
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>>
>> On 7 February 2013 08:02, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> wrote:
>>
>>  I have never found the basis for this reformat cult.  It seems to belong
>>> to the same coffee house rumor that says you should never connect your
>>> camera to a computer through a USB cable.  I always pull out the USB
>>> cable,
>>> download to a computer file of my choice, and allow the computer to
>>> delete
>>> the images from the camera card.  The card is never reformated after it
>>> goes in the camera initially.  I have never had a card problem.
>>>
>>> Jim Nichols
>>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Pearce" <billcpearce at cox.net>
>>>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:45 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
>>>
>>>
>>>  But if you don't reformat, how do you clean it up after downloads?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Lew Schwartz Sent: Wednesday, February
>>>> 06, 2013 2:50 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD
>>>> problem
>>>> I'm not really a proponent of constantly formating. If a card really
>>>> needs
>>>> it, you should replace it altogether. Similarly for this format it in
>>>> the
>>>> device that uses it idea. Sounds like a cyber myth without any science
>>>> behind it to me. The correct format is decided by the SD consortium.
>>>> Every
>>>> device using them has to conform, otherwise your PC/MAC/Linux machine
>>>> wouldn't be able to do any i/o.
>>>>
>>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>> On Feb 6, 2013 12:29 PM, <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Sounds like the card has become corrupted.  Get a new one and ALWAYS
>>>>
>>>>> format in the camera, NEVER in the computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Gene
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Lew Schwartz" <lew1716 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:13:58 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M9 & 64gb SD problem
>>>>>
>>>>> These are 64gb's. I wonder if anyone is using those of another mfgr
>>>>> successfully.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Lew Schwartz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > No size limit with the latest firmware.  I use 16GB Transcend cards
>>>>> > all
>>>>> the
>>>>> > time.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tina
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, John McMaster <john at 
>>>>> > mcmaster.co.nz>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > SanDisk perchance? I stopped using them in my M9 after I had that
>>>>> happen
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > > couple of times.... These are all 16GB cards though, I thought > >
>>>>> there
>>>>> was
>>>>> > a
>>>>> > > size limit on the M9?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > john
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Tina Manley, ASMP
>>>>> > www.tinamanley.com
>>>>> >
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-- 
Regards,

Sonny
http://sonc.com/look/
Natchitoches, Louisiana

USA


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