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Subject: [Leica] Slightly OT
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:37:50 -0500
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Congratulations on the job!!  Work on getting photos in to Alamy, too, if
you can.

Best wishes,

Tina

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Phil Forrest
<photo.forrest at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Ted,
> Thanks for your e-mail which put a few things into perspective for me.
> My glass is half full, not half empty or more.
> Looking back to 2000 when I made up my mind to become a photographer
> for the Navy, no one said it could be done because I was in an
> undermanned specialty and I had a few unique qualifications that the
> community wanted to keep. I began putting in requests to become a
> photographer in 2000, partially out of spite, partially out of desire
> to really do this. My third request was granted and then I was off onto
> the rest of my life.
> Come 2005 when I left the Navy,  started applying for jobs everywhere,
> even working for Stars and Stripes right back where I had been, in
> Iraq.
> Since then, I've "given up" once every few years. Maybe that is more
> like a reset button during a time of funk where I was just sick of the
> hustle. I have sold all my gear (except my dear M4 and my DR Summicron)
> several times over. Last year I was going to become a paramedic but
> decided that it wouldn't be good for my psyche since I tend to take
> work home with me.
> Then I was working the temp job in New Mexico and got inspired again,
> this time by the abject poverty I saw in South Dakota on the Sioux
> reservation. The faces of the children there were almost the exact same
> faces of the children I saw in Iraq and I was stunned that such
> conditions exist here in "the richest country on earth." I shouldn't
> have been but seeing things first hand is different than reading about
> dire conditions.
> So I keep winding up at this same place after a few months
> with the old Leica, back to being stubborn enough to only do one thing
> that I want to do most in life. And to be consumed by it during this
> time when I pretty much know that work is going to be slim but I'm more
> stubborn than most.
> If I were to really quit I would have done it a long time ago. I think
> you saw this but I didn't. Many thanks to you Ted and to all the LUG
> community. (And this comes only very shortly before my first good
> paying day-rate photo job with a network here in the Hudson valley.)
>
> Sincerest regards to all,
> Phil Forrest
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:38:04 -0800
> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > Phil Forrest TOLD US:
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Slightly OT
> >
> > Hi Phil,
> > I'm not going to repeat your post. But I am going to give you great
> > praise for baring your life and the fortitude of still fighting for
> > what you believe in and want to do! LETTING IT ALL HANG OUT? That
> > takes guts to continue trying for the job of your heart....... never
> > easy, even when times are good.
> >
> > Unfortunately it's always easy to second guess later in life what
> > seemed to be the best choice at the time earlier.
> >
> > Like who in the photographic world would've  considered or even
> > thought it possible "photojournalism" and other factors of
> > photography would be in the "RAT'S NEST MESS" it is today compared to
> > only a few years ago?
> >
> > It's even more admirable of you, a veteran of your military
> > forces......... "Still having to fight for a job after hanging ones
> > life on the wire in the name of your country."  Yes job wise is tough
> > all over regardless of ones background. But I've always felt those
> > who put their lives at risk in the name of their country should get
> > first shot for the opportunity to get a job.
> >
> > Not sure what the answer is to correct your situation as I don't
> > believe there's an easy fix!
> >
> > But as hard as you've told us what life has been. Obviously you have
> > the heart, mind and soul to stay the course and fight the good fight
> > to win! My gut feeling? You will! No it's still not going to be a
> > cake walk in the park! But you the person writing your post isn't a
> > quitter and I'd put money on you kicking ass and coming out a winner.
> > Nope, still not going to be an easy task. But within your words and
> > explanations of the past, underneath it all is a winner.
> >
> > Lot's of folks in the crew are cheering and saying a prayer on your
> > behalf. You maynot see us but we are here giving support as much as
> > we can.
> >
> > Good on you lad for hanging tough and fighting on. You will win!
> > Simply because I don't see a quitter in your words no matter how
> > tough a time you're having.
> >
> > All the best.
> > cheers,
> > Dr. ted
> >
> >
> >
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In reply to: Message from kingfisher at halcyon.com (Larry Bullis) ([Leica] Slightly OT)
Message from imagist3 at mac.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Slightly OT)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest) ([Leica] Slightly OT)
Message from tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca) ([Leica] Slightly OT)
Message from photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest) ([Leica] Slightly OT)