Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/03

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M (Type 240) Experience
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 15:40:33 -0700
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I would just like to restate that the M240 is a wonderful M camera used in 
classic M mode. The addition of a larger sensor, increased ISO range, 
incredibly smooth and quiet shutter, terrifically visible range finder lines 
and solid build (esp. baseplate), better ergonomics with menu selection 
placement and thumb rest, and no apparent loss of write speed all make it an 
improvement over the M9 platform. The live view would be great for 
landscapes to not only focus, but to see the impact of filters and DOF 
changes with apertures.

It is just, for my uses, currently not worth the upgrade cost from my M9.
Bob

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 3, 2013, at 3:27 PM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> wrote:

> It depends on what you shoot, fairly static stuff will be fine but I would 
> have my doubts about focussing on fast moving - I have not tried it yet. 
> The focus aid works best when zoomed in, but then everything is magnified 
> and you do not see the whole composition. The large magnification for 
> focussing becomes more of an issue the longer the lens.
> 
> I think you will have to try one to see if it works for your usage, mine 
> is set up that if focus ring is moved (or button on front pushed) it goes 
> to x5 for focussing, then a light press on the release goes back to full 
> view - it is quicker than it may sound ;-)
> 
> At the end of the day it is not a dedicated system for R lenses so there 
> will be some compromise....
> 
> john
> ________________________________________
> 
> 
> I'm really wondering now.  I'm still on the list for the M240 but it sounds
> like it will be really frustrating to use.  Should I just stick with the R9
> and DMR with my R lenses?  I thought the M240 was going to be a solution
> for R lenses but the idea of Live View just drives me crazy!
> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jun 3, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Bill Nelsch wrote:
>> 
>>> Wait a minute - are you suggesting that the 'shutter delay' is AFTER the
>>> image is captured?
>> 
>> I'd think we're all discussing the time duration between
>> depressing the "shutter button"
>> and
>> beginning the capture process.
>> 
>> Each camera has some delay
>> whether involving simple mechanical movements of shutter parts and mirrors
>> or complex electro/mechanical movements of auto focus servo motors
>> and/or exposure calculations
>> or
>> all of the above.
>> 
>> The more you ask the camera to do "for you"
>> the longer the delay
>> in my experience.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
> 
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