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Subject: [Leica] Eyes
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:57:23 +0530
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Gene,
Agreed, but it really does not matter at all shooting street here in
India. Nobody is really bothered by being photographed, so to be
silent or surreptitious is not critical.

I agree with you that the D4 is quieter, but it is also heavier!

Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:51 PM,  <grduprey at mchsi.com> wrote:
> Jayanand,
>
> The noise of the D800 mirror box is one of the reasons I did not go with 
> it, and went with the far quieter D4.
>
> Cheers,
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jayanand Govindaraj" <jayanand at gmail.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:03:00 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Eyes
>
> Tina,
> Nikons don't hunt any more, at least the D800E and D4, focusing is
> ultra fast and accurate, even in extremely low light - you should have
> seen my postings using the D4 capturing action in very marginal light.
> It is just a wee bit unfair to base a decision today on the focusing
> capability of a Nikon 8008! They are heavy and noisy, though, but less
> than you would expect, and the weight is to a large part due to
> superior weather sealing, and I find it a fair enough trade for my
> photography. YMMV. I seriously suggest you hire a Fuji XE-2 and the
> 35mm f1.4 lens for a week, when the body becomes available, and give
> it a whirl. The Fuji X system equipment is truly light and noiseless.
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> 
> wrote:
>> If I have to give up my Leica rangefinders, I'll probably give up
>> photography.  I've tried Canon DSLRs - good ones - the IDMII and 5D and 
>> top
>> of the line Canon lenses.  No thanks.  I had the same experience you did
>> with the Nikon.  The AF hunts and hunts in the low light and backlight 
>> that
>> I like to shoot.  It chooses the wrong thing to focus on most of the time.
>>  The cameras are heavy and noisy and attention-attracting.  The lenses 
>> show
>> chromatic aberrations and distortion.  For me, it's Leica or nothing, I'm
>> afraid.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
>> verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I have to agree with Jayanand...  There is a point when you have no 
>>> choice.
>>> It is AF or get another job/hobby.
>>>
>>> The pitiful part is that it is inevitible....
>>>
>>> I thought at age 35 that I could no longer focus my Canon F1 camera with
>>> accuracy.  My eyes had changed.  Dumped all the Canon stuff and bought a
>>> Nikon 8008.  AF splendor, I thought.  Then I tried it out and in bright
>>> daylight, with little reason for focus errors, I found the camera would 
>>> not
>>> perform as well as I had without AF.  Over time, got rid of all the AF
>>> stuff
>>> ( my sons swiped most of it) and went Leica.
>>>
>>> I am 30 years older, and having the same doubts...  Part of the reason I 
>>> am
>>> considering Nikon AF again.
>>>
>>> When you look at the results out there, sharp images, there seems to be 
>>> no
>>> reason to not use AF..... Yes, it requires a different technique than a 
>>> RF,
>>> but really, not too different from rudimentary AF systems( 1 patch of
>>> focus).
>>>
>>> Inevitable means it is going to happen.. the issue is when and how much 
>>> you
>>> fight it.....
>>>
>>> I was always told that it is best to go out at the top of your game.....
>>>  AF
>>> allows you to extend that game time.
>>>
>>> Even if it is at Leica S2 prices.
>>>
>>> Frank Filippone
>>> Red735i at verizon.net
>>>
>>> Well, Jeff said the same thing as I did...and finally it is the only
>>> permanent, practical solution. I have gone through this whole dance 10
>>> years
>>> ago.
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Tina Manley
>> http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com
>>
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