Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks, Geoff! I do love the Noctilux. Sometimes you really need that shallow depth of field. I think it works for this one: http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/71197205 Everything sharp would not have been as good. Many of these are with the Noctilux: http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/honduras&page=all I really needed the 1.0 and fast film in those dark houses. Today, I'd probably use the 1.4 and M240 with higher speed for most of them, except when I need the shallow depth of field. http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/144348674 Tina On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com>wrote: > Unless someone actually posts pictures to illustrate these opinions, you > guys are all going to be in so much trouble if Dr Ted sees this thread. > ;-) > I know that Tina and Ted are masters of these lenses wide open. Let's see > your stuff. > > I just stopped the (borrowed) thing down because that was the light I had > and the DoF I wanted too. > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153201969 > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/153260573 > > > Cheers > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > On 1 January 2014 06:55, Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net> wrote: > > > The difference between the DOF of a 50/1.4 and 50/1.0 lens is actually > > pretty minimal. > > > > Both are hard to nail critical focus, especially close in. With the EVF > of > > the M or Sony or Fuji, the issues of focus are remarkably reduced. > > > > The real difference between the various (age) 50's is the fingerprint of > > the lens, weight, and cost. > > > > If you are not in favor of weight around your neck, then all 3 Noctis > fall > > off the list, closely followed by the ASPH Lux. The lightest is the more > > recent (black) Summicron. > > > > If you can not afford $3-10k for the lens, then the choice boils down to > a > > Summicron. > > > > Fingerprint is so subjective. But for pure unmitigated sharpness, the > ASPH > > Lux is the clear winner. > > > > I am (almost) down to only the ASPH Lux. And have no regrets. Absolutely > > great lens. > > > > Frank Filippone > > > > > On Dec 31, 2013, at 3:25 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > No matter what you do with a sensor, a 1.0ish lens shooting wide open > > cannot be duplicated with a 1.4. Even just from a depth of field stand > > point, let alone the other characteristics of using such a fast lens wide > > open. So, if that is what you want it is indeed necessary. > > > > > > Aram, who owned a 1.2 lens at one time but could no longer focus with > it. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man > > > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:07 PM > > > To: Leica Users Group > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux > > > > > > I think with the modern digital sensors and cameras, very few lens are > > > truly "necessary," and most are a matter of "wants." Nothing wrong with > > > that since I succumb to gear lust myself, but the world's best pictures > > are > > > seldom taken by the world's most expensive and best lens. > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Wulff <hjwulff at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> The 0.95 is as good as it gets at high speed, with the well understood > > >> downsides of price and size. At smaller apertures the pictures are > hard > > to > > >> distinguish from Summilux-ASPH pictures, but the large size and price > > >> remain. Focus shift exists but is quite manageable. It is the only one > > of > > >> the three that can be considered an all in one lens, if you can live > > with > > >> the size. This lens, like the other Nocti's focusses down to only 1m, > > which > > >> is a distinct limitation in comparison to the slower current 50's and > > in my > > >> opinion its main operational failing. > > >> > > >> The f/1 is of much lower contrast at wider apertures, but also > sharpens > > up > > >> nicely with the downside of considerable focus shift. It has > incredible > > >> flare tolerance which allows it to capture images that no other lens > > seems > > >> capable of. A lens shade is largely pointless. This is a lens that is > > not > > >> easy to master and renders in a unique way, but the rewards are great. > > Our > > >> Dr. Ted did most of his medical photography for his books with this > > lens, > > >> and mostly at f/1. True mastery! > > >> > > >> The f/1.2 is pointless unless you plan on placing it in an honorary > > >> position in your collection. Current prices are exorbitant, and it is > > not > > >> as good a lens overall as the f/1 while being slower. It is a much > > softer > > >> version of the old Summilux 50. The Nokton f/1.1 is definitely a > better > > >> lens overall. > > >> > > >> If you have the Summilux ASPH and an M240, the 0.95 is not as > necessary > > as > > >> it was with the M9, but it of course still allows a little but lower > > light > > >> subjects to be recorded successfully (as long as they are at least one > > >> meter away) with shallower dof, but the f/1 will allow a different > > vision, > > >> if you are willing and able to master it. > > >> > > >> I used to have an f/1.2, have used the f/0.95 and the Nokton f/1.1 and > > >> currently have the f/1 and the Summilux ASPH. > > >> > > >> Henning > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 2013-12-30, at 9:30 PM, David Ching <davidhhching at yahoo.com.sg> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> > Dear Emanuel, > > >> > > > >> > The Noct f0.95 is surely superior in some ways to the Lux 50 ASPH or > > the > > >> Voightlander Nokton f1.1 of the later two which I have. > > >> > How would you rate the 3 Noct versions , f0.95, f1.0 and f1.2? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > David Ching > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Leica Users Group. > > >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > information > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> Henning Wulff > > >> henningw at archiphoto.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> > > > // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- Tina Manley http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com