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Subject: [Leica] Leica's April 24th announcement - place your bets!
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 16:48:59 -0500
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I'm packing all of that right now for 3 weeks in Vietnam.  I'm more worried
about leaving some crucial cable than I am about what clothes I'm packing!!

Tina


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Jim Laurel (gmail) <jplaurel at 
gmail.com>wrote:

> The technology chain for digital photography is very fragile, Nathan. If
> you've gone to a lot of time and effort to travel someplace, you are
> carrying backups of everything. Modern digital cameras are a lot more
> fragile than the mechanical M cameras. Your computer (so you know if you've
> got a big dust blob on your sensor), drives to back up your computer. And a
> tertiary backup because, you know, if data doesn't exist in 3 places, it
> doesn't really exist at all. A power supply for your computer and a backup
> for that for when it fails. A charger for your camera batteries and a
> backup for that. Backup batteries. Your mobile phone. And a charger for
> that. A power strip to plug all this into. And all this stuff is incredibly
> appealing to would-be thieves, so you're always having to look after it,
> locking it up in your room, etc. It's just a lot more stuff to manage.
>
> I'm a technologist, but I am also concerned about the impact of technology
> on society and culture. I walked the Camino de Santiago from St. Jean Pied
> de Port to Compostella last Fall - 800 kilometers. So many pilgrims with
> their faces buried in their iPhones, frantic to find some WiFi. Sitting
> together at tables, but isolated, each one in his/her own little virtual
> world. Every night in the Abergues, people would be scrambling for the few
> outlets to charge phones, cameras, iPads, etc. I can't help but think that
> 30 years ago, they would have been enjoying the moment a bit more.
>
> --Jim
>
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>
> > Technology moves on.  When I was young, when going out, I needed to have
> coins in my pocket and find a pay phone if I wanted to call home. For the
> past 20 years, I have carried a mobile phone in my pocket as a matter of
> course. Initially to talk, now also to browse the web, navigate my way
> through foreign cities etc. Why would that be a bad thing? It's wonderful!
> >
> > Same with cameras. In my film days, I had to carry three bodies: one
> loaded with slow slide film, one loaded with slow B&W film and a third
> loaded with fast B&W film, in my case ISO 1600, since anything faster was
> useless. Now with the Fuji X I have with me where I am right now
> (Maastricht), I can shoot at ISO 6400 and get far superior quality to what
> I used to get with film at 1600. Again, why would that be a bad thing? It
> is not an "obsession", it is merely a way to expand one's photographic
> possibilities.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nathan
> >
> > Nathan Wajsman
> > (sent from somewhere)
> >
> >
> > Den 06/03/2014 kl. 21.57 skrev "Jim Laurel (gmail)" <jplaurel at 
> > gmail.com
> >:
> >
> >> I never will understand all this obsession with ultra-high ISO. Along
> with bokeh, it has become a fetish in the photographic community.
> >>
> >> For so many years, we traveled with the Leica M6 and a few fast lenses
> and 100 ISO slide film, which we would sometimes push 1 stop. Only rarely
> did I feel the need for ISO 1600. The Leica M8 was already better than 35mm
> film at comparable ISO sensitivities. The M9 is better still and yet in
> today's world it is considered woefully obsolete. I can understand that for
> Chris' wedding work, 12,500 allows him to capture images that were just not
> possible in the days of film, but few consumers have such a requirement.
> >>
> >> One thing is for sure. While a few photographers are using the new
> capabilities of digital cameras to push creative boundaries, most simply
> inundate us with well-exposed and sharply focused images with crazy bokeh
> at outrageous ISOs that have little real content.
> >>
> >> --Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, chris williams <zoeica at mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> No way on the M-AF mount. The M battery is already small, I would not
> want another battery drain.
> >>>
> >>> I just recently shot the M 240 at a wedding. Unless there's a new
> version capable of 12,500 iso I don't really see a need for a new camera
> announcement.?
> >>>
> >
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-- 
Tina Manley
http:// <http://tina-manley.artistwebsites.com/>www.tinamanley.com


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