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Subject: [Leica] Monochrom metadata and uncoded lenses
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:36:00 -0800
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John McMaster OFFERED;
Subject: Re: [Leica] Monochrom metadata and uncoded lenses

>> EXIF is automatic in all digital cameras, even yours, why get so agitated
about what others do?<<<

Hi John,
Well it's not that I get as agitated as I once did about all this stuff? My
bottom line on it as silly as folks will believe is?

If so much of all this techie bits and pieces weren't installed and
developed Leica's could be sold a hell of a lot cheaper for those of us whom
are true LEICA USERS AND BELEIVING IN as the, ready?

"THE ONLY CAMERAS IN THE WORLD WORTH USING!" OK so that's me! :-)

Yeah I know........ "OK Ted go take yer meds and have yer nap! :-)He
responds quietly .... "OK!"

End of conversation! :-)
cheers,
ted  




Even in film days some people were interested in this sort of thing; sheet
film photographers for lens/aperture/exposure/development, portraitists for
lighting and aperture etc.

I have been doing tests with Leica lenses recently. Would you have guessed
that until it is stopped down to f8 the Modular 400/4 lens is outperformed
by the 280/4 with 1.4x convertor? Neither is a cheap lens but the 280/4 is
more available and less than half the weight... 

I like to know how my equipment performs before I use it, I will shoot some
(non-Leica) lenses wide open but I know that they perform better stopped
down two stops. That lets me know that I can shoot wide open but to stop
down if I can or image quality is more important on a static subject.
Likewise, stopping down too far degrades the image, so does that happen at
f8 or f11? After all we have spent the serious money on Leica as they
produce amongst the best lenses, what is wrong with knowing how to use them
well? 

Of course this does not apply in sports or fast paced news scenarios, how
many people on this list shoot either?  And in this day and age how many of
those photographers use Leica??

 EXIF is automatic in all digital cameras, even yours, why get so agitated
about what others do?

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.nz at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf
Of Ted Grant
Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2015 1:08 p.m.
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Leica] Monochrom metadata and uncoded lenses

OK LET's try a few things on how I use and handled my cameras while covering
my assignments during the past 60 years? And never been a techie ever! WHY?


Well I was and still am, a photojournalist of little or no camera
questioning? Nor rarely read camera instruction manuals. :-)
 
1/ Open back of camera snap in a roll of film. A quick hand meter reading
for shooting light! After that it was all "BY GUESS, GUT AND GOD!" :-)

2/ DOING TESTS OF CAMERAs OR LENSES OUT OF THE BOX? They were LEICA's why in
heavens' name would you bother testing them. Once in awhile with long teles
I might pop a few frames wide open and a few stopped right down just to see
the effects. THAT WAS IT! After that I knew what to expect and if I used the
Super Wide 15mm on either the R cameras or the 15mm for M body many were
flying it looking through the LENS view finder for a quick check. CLICK!  

And all this stuff that many of you pay so much attention to as in EXIF? OR
WHATEVER? And other considered bells and whistles. I ask myself?....  "What
the hell is that stuff and I don't know nor ever think about simply because
I don't have a clue where in the camera you set it! Nor do I see horrible
images because I don't know, nor care what the hell it's all about. 

And due to not knowing what these techie things do nor do not do? Are my
published photos not any good? Or when during a screening presentation the
audience during the course of the presentation give me wonderful "STANDING
OVATIONS DUE TO THE IMAGES THEY'ER LOOKING AT!"  

Once again lads & ladies may I ask? Is it really absolutely a need to know
all this techie stuff for better content photographs?

What it does or doesn't do in maybe capturing the most "Fantastic Content"
one could hope for? Because the "BOTTOMLINE WILL ALWAYS BE THE CONTENT
CAPTURED!" And if not using, nor setting all these bells and whistles will I
be a failure as a photographer?

All I know is this EXIF or Whatever the hell it is along with all the other
symbols etc.?? At the blink of my eye to the "CLICK" of my reaction to the
fleeting real life split second moment? Because I don't know nor willingly
know how or what to set? "How is it my photos just kinda look cool fine?"
:-)

I'm not trying to bug you technical astute folks by my nearly always
appearing to challenge all the in camera technologies that to me and my
photo results are completely meaningless drivel! But then that's me and my
total belief of a "KISS PHOTO-LIFE!" :-) 

And that's it since 27 May 1950 when my dear wife Irene gave me my first
camera! An Argus A2 35mm film camera and my photo life began. :-) 

cheers,
Dr. ted :-)


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